If you want to play an FFA PvP MMO there's some game shadowfall or something or just play a FPS game. Diablo 2 has some sweet FFA PvP griefing I'm sure PoE has some. Why does it have to be an MMO?
I feel FFA PvP is kindof a bad design concept. or, at least its a design concept that needs SO much good integration/systems around it to make it work, it never gets done well.
While the design had many progressive and neat ideas, the implementation was lacking. The main thing I remember about it was the nonstop crashes to desktop. I'm curious what would have happened if Bioware had taken the Shadowbane design and plopped it down in the Star Wars universe with Jedi and Sith, versus the Mass Effect/WOW hybrid we were given. Wolfpack had some good designers. It's a shame they didn't have the coders for the world they created. It was definitely ahead of its time.
It's really a catch 22. We want attachment and community which takes time and patience, but we are mostly now burnt out old MMOers who want this quickly without the emotional investment we put into prior games. The trick is creating a game that allows that investment in a somewhat casual fashion, but isn't watered down to the point of being boring and focused on repetitive grinds. Grindiness is ok, if it's in a fun manner a la group vs group combat in the Frontiers.RobXIII_sl said:
Hehe my main was a Warrior Priest and cleanse was definitely OP as hell. Damn it was the most fun healer class I've played though (Midgard Healer probably 2nd). I always thought it seemed weird that the melee/healer hybrid was the best healer overall on both sides due to their group heals. The pure cloth healers kinda sucked comparatively. Yeah, Mythic should have just said fuck it and made all classes mirrors of their order/chaos counterpart.
I?d have to agree here. One of my 50?s was a Warrior Priest and man could I heal. Was a blast playing the class but they did make one mistake and that was the aoe heal you didn?t have to be in a group for. I think every WP would just run into a keep siege and start aoe healing next to the stars where the sorcs where aoe dpsing. You would suck up the renown points like a sponge since you weren?t grouped.
Actually Witch Hunters sucked initially as a burst dps class. My first 50 was a Witch Hunter and man did I love him but they were definitely below the Witch Elf in burst dps. If you went after a cloth healer as a WH, unlike a WE who could kill the healer and many times get away, the WH had at best a 50% chance to kill the healer but would always be dead.
War did a ton of things right. And I really believe if they had had 3 factions instead of two that it would have been a long term success.
For all it's issues, I have a hard time coming up with more then a couple mmos I had more fun in than WAR.
I absolutly agree. Anyone who ever played EQ on a PvP Server will agree. I played on VZ and I can't tell you how awesome it was when the most hated Guild on the server locked down Sebilises for everyone else. The drama on the forums, the fight in game, the politics between the guilds that was the reason I played EQ.
It also appears to be the opinion of about 80% of the player base, meaning yours, is in the minority.
WARSUCKED, Period. DAOC had a window of where it was finally fun between Shrouded Isles and New Frontiers/ToA. About eleven months? Before that it was an unfinished/unbalanced pile of shit, and after ToA was launched, and New Frontiers, it was awful.
What? PVE Hero? The best part of WAR was the T1 PVP because everything was pretty well balanced at that point. It just got worse as you leveled. If they cut out all the other levels and abilities and just stuck the end-game mechanics on top of classes in T1 the game would of been much much better.
