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Crone

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So I think I know the answer to this already, but a new job offer I'm persuing comes with a company car, so the need for an efficient car to get around as my every day driver goes away, and I want something else. Currently have a 2011 Toyota Sienna for the wife and kids, and I drive a 2003 Toyota Camry. Obviously a pretty practical family and both were bought off Craigslist.

Wife wants 4x4, as despite it not happening very often, not being able to get around in the snow that recently fell in Seattle, freaked her out, and I don't disagree with this. But I also want a 4x4 that can hold 3 car seats.

Am I looking at a Tahoe/Yukon varient, or Suburban? I probably could get away with an F-150, as she loves trucks.

Just wanna make sure I'm on the right path, and not over looking something. Thanks bros.
 
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Unless it's some kind of snowpocalypse that requires ground clearance to get around I don't think a "4x4" is going to get you through snow any better than a FWD van. It's all on the tires. If you don't live where it snows regularly, you're not going to have snow tires handy, and all-seasons or summer tires suck fat dicks in the snow. Regardless of what vehicle they are on.

And keep in mind a 4x4 only helps with going forwards, applying power... doesn't help with turning or stopping, which are what you need to do in the snow.

Get an AWD van maybe? Pretty sure you can get a Sienna in AWD.

And don't buy cars for once every 5 years snows or whatever. You gotta live with that shit every day. Just stay home when it snows.
 
Crone

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Cad said:
Unless it's some kind of snowpocalypse that requires ground clearance to get around I don't think a "4x4" is going to get you through snow any better than a FWD van. It's all on the tires. If you don't live where it snows regularly, you're not going to have snow tires handy, and all-seasons or summer tires suck fat dicks in the snow. Regardless of what vehicle they are on.

And keep in mind a 4x4 only helps with going forwards, applying power... doesn't help with turning or stopping, which are what you need to do in the snow.

Get an AWD van maybe? Pretty sure you can get a Sienna in AWD.

And don't buy cars for once every 5 years snows or whatever. You gotta live with that shit every day. Just stay home when it snows.
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Excellent points. Thank you. This has me thinking of getting a new car that's fun, and not just practical!
 
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What was the situation where you couldn't get around? If it's just a couple inches of snow and ice then your cars probably do better than a bigger vehicle and certainly better than a pickup truck just because they handle better. If you're not dealing with deep snow then your current cars should be just fine. In places where there is real winter, people drive cars like that in snow all the time although 4WD can be very helpful if you slide into the ditch. I guess one argument for the suburban if you're going out in a city where people don't know how to drive in snow is that you will probably be better off when somebody that doesn't know what they're doing slams into you.
 
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I think in Seattle people go pants on head retarded when snow touches the ground. Your current cars are going to handle snow better than a truck. An SUV may be a little better since there is some extra weight over the rear wheels.

I live in Ohio where we actually get snow regularly. I've never needed more than all seasons and FWD. I had a Nissan Titan 4x4 for a while, but it was worse in snow.
 
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I'd be down! Ill grab @Butthurt and bring him. We're technically in Plano, but I know when my lease is up this summer I'm moving back down to Dallas.
 
Crone

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The trim options available on the models of Sienna that have AWD are not ideal, but I think I can make something work. Have a 2003 Camry and 2011 Sienna I want to trade in towards a new Sienna. It'll be nice!

Looked on Craigslist just to get an idea of what was out there and CL prices, and there isn't much for Sienna's. It appears that people buy them and never sell them?
 
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Crone said:
The trim options available on the models of Sienna that have AWD are not ideal, but I think I can make something work. Have a 2003 Camry and 2011 Sienna I want to trade in towards a new Sienna. It'll be nice!

Looked on Craigslist just to get an idea of what was out there and CL prices, and there isn't much for Sienna's. It appears that people buy them and never sell them?
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Think you can get odysseys in awd too.
 
Crone

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Think you can get odysseys in awd too.
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Yea, been browsing around on Edmunds as well, and that's where I saw that Toyota is the only one making AWD mini-vans anymore. I'll take a look at Odysseys as well. Toyota hasn't changed the Sienna since 2010 and I think that's lazy AF.
 
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Crone said:
Yea, been browsing around on Edmunds as well, and that's where I saw that Toyota is the only one making AWD mini-vans anymore. I'll take a look at Odysseys as well. Toyota hasn't changed the Sienna since 2010 and I think that's lazy AF.
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Sedona is top of the line.


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So fucking pissed.. My spotless parked 2014 S4 with only 11,000 miles on it just got it's bumper and tail-light demolished by some grandma backing out of her spot in a 1995 4Runner while blathering away on her cell phone. I was literally standing there watching it happen in slow motion. So frustrating..
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I had a deer crush the front right side of my A5 around Christmas, then about a week ago some piece of shit merged into me and fucked up the front passenger side exterior. I would have loved for this shit to happen during the previous 6 years while I was driving my beat ass pickup truck. Can't catch a fucking break.
 
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Went with a camry 2016 27k miles for 15k.

It so spacious, and it makes me feel old.
But hey ,I'm old now.
 
Noodleface

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Hey guys so my wife fell in love with the CR-V so that's what we're getting

Dealer had a deal on 2016s $219 per month for 3 years. Doing the lease again because it will allow her to upgrade the kid mobile every few years.

Anyways they're out of stock so he pulls out a 2017. Fuckin 700 years later he tells us it's $479 a month to lease and I'm a bit dumbfounded. At that price why the fuck wouldn't I just buy the car?

Anyways we left and he kept trying to knock money off but I was all set with that price Delta. So now we know only 2017s will be available new.

My question is, should we wait until March for lease deals on these guys? Is there a better month for it?

We need a new car before July because her civic is too small for two car seats.
 
Crone

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We leased a Hyundai Tucson when we had our first kid and after 3 years we were so frustrated with it. Shits deceiving. With a stroller in the back, forget going to Costco without playing tetris and stacking shit all over. The front passenger side seat had so little room to sit because of the infant carrier behind it that it's a good thing my wife is pretty short.

Never again will I be fooled by these crossover SUVs.
 
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A Tucson is their small SUV.... so... yeah...

For kids, if your hauling nothing beats the convenience of a van - and all makers who still make vans make the inside really nice - it will be the top tier of the line - they are begging you to buy their van.

Automatic sliding doors, DVD players, 3rd row humans can fit in and still have some storage in the back... the Van...

I don't like Chrysler- but that 42k hybrid with 30mile battery only range then like 84MPGe - dang... unless its a POS that falls apart in 2 years... but I think Fiat has gotten that under control :-D

Yes "Vans suck!" but they get better MPGs typically than their same-ish size crossovers and are also cheaper...but when it comes to babies and kid junk, nothing hauls that crap around better.
 
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Crone said:
We leased a Hyundai Tucson when we had our first kid and after 3 years we were so frustrated with it. Shits deceiving. With a stroller in the back, forget going to Costco without playing tetris and stacking shit all over. The front passenger side seat had so little room to sit because of the infant carrier behind it that it's a good thing my wife is pretty short.

Never again will I be fooled by these crossover SUVs.
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The CR-V was Roomey. She's upgrading from a civic...
 
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