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in 2018 they were.

I'm looking at Japanese used cars and Japanese imports | Goo-net Exchange Find Japanese used vehicles now for the cost (they stopped the R34 GT-R in 2002, so 2027 import date) and they are, depending on what model you want, anywhere from 100-300k US Dollars for a 2002 model, in japan, right now.


They started up the R35 line in 2007 but those aren't really as popular, but I guess you could start buying up R35s and wait til 2032 to resell them?
Why wouldn't I buy 2002 models for 2027 import?
 

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Why wouldn't I buy 2002 models for 2027 import?
not sure if trolling but if not, then obviously the japanese resellers have caught on and have already baked in the pending import legality into the price. Doubt that 300k car is going to sell for 600k in the US.
 

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ibut for example you could buy a 95 Skyline for 15-20k in Japan in 2018 (23 years old) but the moment 2020 hit and you could legally import it they shot up to 40k in Japan, and 50k here stateside.
I was just going off of what you were saying, if you're backing off that and now saying it's priced in, then it invalidates what you said earlier, thats fine. Seemed like a good business opportunity if not.
 

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Sometimes it's just luck. I sold an RX-7 like a year before *that* movie showed up and they all got snapped up and destroyed by clowns. Could have easily 5x my money off of that one. Generally though, you make money trading cars, not hoarding them.

I think it's better to buy something to enjoy rather than expect to make money off. Buy near the bottom of the depreciation curve you get some fun out of it and you won't lose too much to depreciation. I still need to own a V12 car at some point and have been eyeing Ferrari 456's and DB9's for a while. Prices on them have been mostly flat for a few years now. There's definitely a market split between cars that just sit around in storage and for cars that people actually drive. You see cars with like 12k on them and also cars with 100k+.
 
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Sometimes it's just luck. I sold an RX-7 like a year before *that* movie showed up and they all got snapped up and destroyed by clowns. Could have easily 5x my money off of that one. Generally though, you make money trading cars, not hoarding them.

I think it's better to buy something to enjoy rather than expect to make money off. Buy near the bottom of the depreciation curve you get some fun out of it and you won't lose too much to depreciation. I still need to own a V12 car at some point and have been eyeing Ferrari 456's and DB9's for a while. Prices on them have been mostly flat for a few years now. There's definitely a market split between cars that just sit around in storage and for cars that people actually drive. You see cars with like 12k on them and also cars with 100k+.
How about a W12? You can pick up one of these babies for 20kish or less right now!

And then spend 20kish on repairs most likely...

 
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How about a W12? You can pick up one of these babies for 20kish or less right now!

And then spend 20kish on repairs most likely...


Was never a real fan of the VR series engines (I've driven the 5 and 6 cylinder version), I think it's complicated for what it is. I do like the design of some of the Bentleys it is in.

I think engine tech peaked in the 90s when they were both advanced enough to never break and give great driveability but not so advanced that you start getting into direct injection/cylinder deactivation types of CO2 optimized compromises. Also prefer stick shift or torque converter automatic, I've driven a newer Vantage with the Sportshift robotized manual and I think that transmission ruined an otherwise fantastic car.

So far, Ferrari 456 or DB9/DB7 seems to fit the bill. E31 850i maybe but I've already owned just about every BMW from that generation. I'm a fairly competent DIY mechanic as long as it doesn't involve bodywork so higher miles in and of itself isn't really a problem for me.
 

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I was just going off of what you were saying, if you're backing off that and now saying it's priced in, then it invalidates what you said earlier, thats fine. Seemed like a good business opportunity if not.
Im not backing off shit, it used to be a good opportunity 7-10 years ago, it's not anymore. You can still double your investment by choosing less popular cars but you are limited by volume/demand.

For example I owned a 1997 Honda integra type r when I was in okinawa, it was 2k when I bought it back in 2014. It was 2k when the marine prior to me bought it in 2011. It was probably 2k when the air force guy bought it in 2008. I ended up giving it away to my buddy when I left in 2017, but could have sold it for 2k easily. That was at 20 years, still too far out from export date to really matter. My buddy turned it over 3 years out, and the guy after him i imagine probably brought it back stateside (i have no idea). That car is 22k today.
 

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1) Buy hundreds of old tiny trucks
2) ...
3) Profit!
See a shit ton of them for sale in Oklahoma fb marketplace. Think it's one of the states it's easy to tag them vs a few states where it's impossible even if legally imported.