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95 Nissan skyline gtr's were 15k new and 50k nowadays.
I know special circumstances but a lot (all) of the jdm imports cost more used than they did new.
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I know special circumstances but a lot (all) of the jdm imports cost more used than they did new.
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A lot of these cars did not appreciate, they depreciated and then became rare so the survivors are worth more past their normal useful life as artifacts. Plus you also have to count inflation. '93 Toyota Supra Turbo was about 50k loaded, inflation alone means that is 110K today. Maybe you get a bit more for super rare stock cars (like 150k), but that's not even including opportunity cost of the most modest investment returns. Nothing short of rare highly desirable stuff like supercars will ever be worth it. Best you can do is get less hosed. Plus let's be honest, if you own a car for 40 years to try and sell it super high, the maintenance costs and all that compared to you putting only like 20k miles on it or something, no way in hell do you come out ahead.
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Any air cooled porsche is another example, but you also destroy the value of those cars if you actually drive them. Hard to really square that with "cars" as most of us think of it.
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Are there any that have even 'low' annual mileage that increase during a normal person's lifetime (50 yrs) that it even makes sense? Even the more 'desirable' mass produced cars are probably shot value wise by time you put 100k on them. At best you only lose all the maintenance and opportunity cost for the money you spent on it and recoup from some collector because its rare by then. You see that on the auction site recaps sometimes, like some guy sells a dumb econobox 30 years later with only 13000 miles on it for what he paid for it and they blow it up as a news story like it means something, not counting the fact that inflation adjusted they still lost money much less all the other costs and just having it take up a garage spot for 30 years.
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Only meme cars that blow up in value. I had a MkIV Supra in the late 90's and that car actually increased in value because of F&F, even though I drove it a lot. There would have been no way to predict that though beforehand. Those cars sold like dogshit in the US too, in 2000 there were still 98 models sitting on dealer lots because nobody wanted to buy them. In 97-98 they reduced the price like 30-40% on new models because they were selling like shit.
The cars Burren listed if you actually drive them they won't be appreciating, these are all collector cars that rich douchebags buy to drive on Sundays to Cars & Coffee to feel important. They're all amazing cars, but as far as value goes they're collector cars.
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The GT2RS and GT3RS's blow up in value because you can't buy them. Porsche intentionally limits production, demand is way higher than supply. So when they only make 200 of them or whatever but there are 1000 buyers, thats whats happens.
Again though those aren't really like "cars you could buy that appreciate" those are $250k semi-exotics.
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Probably most cars if you put them in a heated garage and don't drive them for 50 years will sell for more than they did when they were new, but that's a ridiculous thing to do and not really germane to the discussion of cars as machines that people use for transportation. Hand built super cars that go up in value are more like an artwork than a car in the way that most people have cars.
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*shrug* I bought one of my GT3s for $130,000 and drove it 8200 miles, then sold it for $172,000 19 months later. Drove it hard.
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its different with JDMs waiting out the 25 year export requirement to get around highway safety regulations. They definitely appreciated up more than cost as they approach 20ish years but for example you could buy a 95 Skyline for 15-20k in Japan in 2018 (23 years old) but the moment 2020 hit and you could legally import it they shot up to 40k in Japan, and 50k here stateside.
As I said its a unique set of circumstances but virtually every JDM appreciates at 25 years, even fucking work trucks little Kei trucks and vans sell for like 10k in the states they cost 1k in Japan (and its free to transport back to stateside for military)
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Yea but by that metric, it doesn't count because no one here could buy a JDM only vehicle 25 years ago to gain the value of it. We're only talking about vehicles people can actually buy that appreciate.
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Seems like you could have an easy business opportunity buying JDM cars 2 years before 25 years hits and then waiting to import them and resell them here at 25 years.
Anybody want in on this?
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problem is volume, everyone in the military brings back their allotted 1 car for personal desire/use so you gotta convince them to sell it to you and why would they sell for less than market value?
Otherwise you end up having to spend many thousands in shipping and import costs.
a precursory look on google shows there are many such businesses that do this, though. an example:
carfromjapan.com
Hell i think I may import another kei truck, look at this bad boy:
carfromjapan.com
Otherwise you end up having to spend many thousands in shipping and import costs.
a precursory look on google shows there are many such businesses that do this, though. an example:
CAR FROM JAPAN: Import Used Cars Directly From Japan
CAR FROM JAPAN is a leading platform to import Japanese used cars from JAPAN. Discover 100,000+ high quality vehicles at affordable prices, ready for global shipping. Start your search today!
carfromjapan.com
Hell i think I may import another kei truck, look at this bad boy:
Daihatsu Midget II 1996
Fantastic Low Mileage Midget II Now for Sale Very clean vehicle Fantastic low mileage 17600km 4speed manual Alloy Wheels New tires Cheap used 1996 Daihatsu Midget II for Sale, ready to ship. CAR FROM JAPAN is the best way to buy cheap second hand Japanese cars. Import directly from Japan with...
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You said they were $15-20k 2 years before, and $40k when they hit 25 years. Thats a 100% increase, how can there not be profit in that?problem is volume, everyone in the military brings back their allotted 1 car for personal desire/use so you gotta convince them to sell it to you and why would they sell for less than market value?
Otherwise you end up having to spend many thousands in shipping and import costs.
a precursory look on google shows there are many such businesses that do this, though. an example:
CAR FROM JAPAN: Import Used Cars Directly From Japan
CAR FROM JAPAN is a leading platform to import Japanese used cars from JAPAN. Discover 100,000+ high quality vehicles at affordable prices, ready for global shipping. Start your search today!
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in 2018 they were.
I'm looking at Japanese used cars and Japanese imports | Goo-net Exchange Find Japanese used vehicles now for the cost (they stopped the R34 GT-R in 2002, so 2027 import date) and they are, depending on what model you want, anywhere from 100-300k US Dollars for a 2002 model, in japan, right now.
They started up the R35 line in 2007 but those aren't really as popular, but I guess you could start buying up R35s and wait til 2032 to resell them?
I'm looking at Japanese used cars and Japanese imports | Goo-net Exchange Find Japanese used vehicles now for the cost (they stopped the R34 GT-R in 2002, so 2027 import date) and they are, depending on what model you want, anywhere from 100-300k US Dollars for a 2002 model, in japan, right now.
They started up the R35 line in 2007 but those aren't really as popular, but I guess you could start buying up R35s and wait til 2032 to resell them?