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Kreugen

Vyemm Raider
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Sniping SS on Oregorger is pretty clever, as is leaving for a new box at ~10% just like we would any add. I did it that way on our normal fuck-around run but then I also worried a lot less about getting ran over, heh. But I don't run FS on that fight so it's harder to compare. I'm pretty sure we'd have been even if I had done those things as you said.

The huge gap on Operator I'm not so worried about. I focused on maintaining a single target rotation with secondary aoe on firemender/man at arms adds because I felt they were being left up too long, wheras he focused on pure aoe meter maxing at all times. It adds up to dead boss either way, and it's good to have people doing both. The boss died before that last difficult double add wave so we were doing something right. Plus that was just an unusual run for me to even be under 40k at all. That's the downside of survival - you don't want to focus anything that is going to die quickly. So I was working against my classes strength there.

But what bugs me are the fights where we run identical specs and he gets off like 47 CPM to my upper 30s. (using the WCL pin from the google doc, fyi) I mean, fucking SimC only hits like 50 on patchwerk. Dude is just a machine. But at least I learned that my shot rhythm is wasting significant GCD time from investigating this so maybe I can close the gap some and get gooder. The bad thing is now I find myself mashing every half second like its fucking Rift.

It's humbling, heh. But it keeps things interesting - it's been a while since I had any reason to give a shit. And this is -nowhere- as frustrating as min/maxing Mage was.

All classes should punish you less for missing globals like the way rogue works, imo. Because we're too old for this shit.
 

TecKnoe

Molten Core Raider
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What addons are must have for priest these days or raiding in general? heh back when I was playing really all there was, was recount / DBM /decurse / grid, and a couple easy scripts that literally healed for you (healing lowest target without actually targeting them)
 

Vorph

Silver Baronet of the Realm
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I use ElvUI as the base always. There's a variety of enhancements for the base ElvUI available too, and I use ElvUI Still Enhanced, AddOnSkins, and ElvUI Kkthnx. The last one hasn't been updated since the end of Oct. It still works, but if I was starting fresh or felt like completely redoing my setup I would probably pick another of the 'major overhaul' mods instead.

Raid Addons:
DBM
DBM Voicepack VEM - Adds voice warnings to DBM, replacing generic sounds which are just about worthless and making it so that you almost never need to watch the bars.
GTFO - Extremely annoying sounds that play when you stand in fire like a retard.
Thogar Assist - Addon specifically made for Thogar in BRF by one of the BigWigs developers.
Skada Damage Meter
RaidBuffStatus - Must have if you lead raids, or if you just want to see how many slackasses you're raiding with.
Raid Bubbles - Turns on chat bubbles when you enter a raid zone because they are required for seeing DBM /say messages, good for people who hate that shit and want them off the rest of the time.
AskMrRobot - If you use AMR and/or post your raid logs there

Priest/healing-specific Addons:
Grid2 - Raid frames
Clique - Much better/easier than @mouseover macros.
HaloPro - Helps with finding the correct range to use L90 talents (not just Halo, despite the name) from.
SPTimers - Bar with a logarithmic-ish scale that tracks all your cooldowns in one spot.
WeakAuras 2 - I use a block of WAs that show me the two tanks, their CoW shield size and duration, Evangelism stacks in a combo point style display and duration remaining, mana bar, PW:Solace cooldown, and Archangel duration. Here's what it looks like:
PriestWAs.png

I didn't make the WAs myself. I got them from mmo-c(?) and then modified them to not be a mess when playing Holy instead of Disc.

Grid2+Clique can be replaced by VuhDo if you prefer it, but nothing will heal for you automatically anymore. Addons are now locked out of pressing buttons while in combat. I've never used VuhDo myself, mainly because I think the configuration UI is quite possibly the ugliest mess I have ever seen.

Garrison Addons:
Broker Garrison - Data texts with mouseover tooltips that show the status of work orders and missions for all your characters.
Master Plan - Mission stuff, I'm sure everyone already has this by now.
BulkOrder - Fills your work orders to max automatically when you click on the NPC.
BuyEmAll - Buy stacks of shit at the trading post when you need to get rid of GR.

General Must-have Addons:
BugSack
!BugGrabber
ActionBarSaver - Save your action bar layouts so that you can drop a heal spec for shadow and a simple restore command will place all your hotkeys back where they belong.
Pawn - Stat weighting addon to show you if an item is an upgrade.
TradeSkillMaster, TSM_AuctionDB, TSM_WoWuction, and TSM App for Windows - I use it mainly to grab price data so that I don't have to manually scan the AH myself. It can do a hell of a lot more than that if you want it to though.
Auctionator - AH addon that isn't ridiculously bloated like Auctioneer.
 

Tenks

Bronze Knight of the Realm
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I think I may be nearing the end of my run in this game. I have no desire to login and logging in at all feels like a chore even to just update my follower missions. It was real bros. D-crew for life.
 

Kreugen

Vyemm Raider
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I kept waiting for master plan to implement bulkorder. (it's default in 6.1) Also, a button to toggle all assigned workers. It seems they thought of everything else.
 

Vorph

Silver Baronet of the Realm
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But what bugs me are the fights where we run identical specs and he gets off like 47 CPM to my upper 30s. (using the WCL pin from the google doc, fyi) I mean, fucking SimC only hits like 50 on patchwerk. Dude is just a machine. But at least I learned that my shot rhythm is wasting significant GCD time from investigating this so maybe I can close the gap some and get gooder. The bad thing is now I find myself mashing every half second like its fucking Rift.
When you say "identical specs" are you including LW vs. FS in that? When I browsed through your logs I didn't think there were any where you both were using FS. FS is always going to generate higher CPM simply because you have to dump all that extra focus on Arcane Shots. LW will do less of them because Cobra Shot creates a lot less focus, but at the same time they hit 30% harder so it's not really a bad thing.

The real problem with Lone Wolf isn't even the difference in focus generation though. It's that LW doesn't buff Serpent Sting, Barrage, etc. at all. If LW was a flat +30% damage to everything we do, it would be a completely different story and I suspect everyone would drop FS immediately if that happened.
 

Kreugen

Vyemm Raider
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After seeing the light on multi-target fights (thanks) I do use FS on obvious fights like beastlord, operator, maidens, kromog (overkill now that we have a boomkin, as we nearly wiped ourselves with big dick aoe), and blast furnace. The rest I think are a push and I'm just more comfortable when I don't have to worry about clipping a FS. I just need more practice with it - now that I'm aware of it I already logged better CPM.

The next trick to learn is how to drop a trap while scrambling in case no other action is available. Right now that would be an impossible button combination. Didn't give a shit in LW, but useful with FS if you really want to nerd out. Fox is usually called by RL and not something I can just use at will to help only my own deeps, heh.

SimC also swears to me that my dps actually goes UP using LW single target with 2-piece. I believe it becomes a push again with 4-piece. This is simming my own gear and poor race choice.
 

Vorph

Silver Baronet of the Realm
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You could use AutoHotKey to activate the trap and click the ground reticule immediately like Azortharion does. It takes a bit of practice to get used to aiming it with the normal mouse pointer though.

As for the sims, single target is pretty much just Gruul and Blackhand anyway, and for mythic Gruul they're already recommending a switch to LW because flares cause too much unpredictable movement. And Blackhand is SV-LW (or MM, which always uses LW) by default if you're kiting the tank.
 

TecKnoe

Molten Core Raider
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nvm I got it to update, how does the find upgrades function work? I select the zone, raid etc then it just brings up a list of items that drop from there, most aren't upgrades to slots I have 660s in.
 

Soygen

The Dirty Dozen For the Price of One
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You have to manually click "Update from armory" whenever you get more gear. Also, you have to log out to at least the character select screen for your armory to update.
 

Kreugen

Vyemm Raider
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Funny enough in LW I usually beat what SimC says I can get so I thought everything was grand. Maybe it's just FS I suck at and I'll catch up again with practice so I'm alarmed over nothing. Was just a bit shocked when I ran that WCL pin...
 

Falstaff

Ahn'Qiraj Raider
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I think I may be nearing the end of my run in this game. I have no desire to login and logging in at all feels like a chore even to just update my follower missions. It was real bros. D-crew for life.
Basically came here to post this. I cancelled my sub but it just renewed a couple weeks ago. I'll be around until April probably. Definitely won't be on Saturday but maybe next Saturday I can actually make a raid.