College Football 2015-16

And has it been that long? Jesus, I am ooollddddddd

I can't wait for the delusional Irish fans to get going again this year.

Burnesto_sl said:

I can't wait for the delusional Irish fans to get going again this year.

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Espn throwing coals on that fire AND USC's fire. I woke up and thought it was 2012.

joeboo_sl said:

An average over the last 10 years is relevant. Yes, Texas and USC were dominant 10 years ago...at that one snapshot in time of 2005, but looking at their average season over the past 10 years gives you a different view of them which is a little more accurate.

No single season is indicative of the general state of a program. You need a little bit of time to see the recent trends, but I do think that looking back too far is totally irrelevant. No one gives a crap how many titles a team won before we were all born. 10 years is a pretty happy medium(but I would listen to a 5-year window argument as well)

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If you're tracking the average or consistency, there is absolutely no team better than Ohio State in the history of the sport.

Regime_sl said:

RIP Tea For Tuesday, Lucane, mippo, ham, two bit whore and many more.

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lol twobitwhore, that guy fucking sucked

Dumar_sl said:

If you're tracking the average or consistency, there is absolutely no team better than Ohio State in the history of the sport.

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As someone who has been watching college football for 25+ years, I honestly can't ever remember Ohio State being flat-outbad, I can't say the same for Alabama, Notre Dame, Florida, Nebraska, Florida State, Miami, Texas, Oklahoma or a lot of other historically elite teams over that time peroid. Most have had at least a few years of suckage mixed in, but not Ohio State(which then begs the question, why doesn't OSU have more titles?). OSU was pretty cruddy for a few years in the late 80s, but in the 25 years since 1990, their worst seasons were going 6-6 twice, they only missed a bowl game once in 25 years(that wasn't for probationary reasons).

By comparison, Alabama was shit in the late 90s & early 2000s, 4-7 in 1997, 3-8 in 2000, 4-9 in 2003, 6-7 in 2006, etc.

joeboo_sl said:

I wasn't talking about just last year. I was talking about a 10-year period. Wisconsin has been significantly better than Michigan St over the past decade(but I would give MSU the nod in the last 3-4 years for sure), Wisconsin has won 10+ games in 6 of the last 10 years. And Georgia might be borderline "great", but they have won the East 3 times and finished in the top 10 4 times in the last decade. Sure, they haven't played for a national title, but they've been consistently REALLY good almost every year(ranked 8 out of 10 years to end the season, and ranked at some point during ALL of those seasons)

You're also missing about 6 teams from your list, you only have 22 listed, the two conferences have 28 teams combined. You're missing Indiana, Purdue, Northwestern, and Illinois from the Big 10(all below average), and missing A&M and Tennessee from the SEC. But to be fair, I missed Tennessee in mine too, I couldn't decide whether to put them at "average" or "below average" and then forgot to add them at all.

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Hmm yeah I agree with the decade period, absolutely agree with that. I was speaking more in a "right now" sense of things. The others I didn't add (I should have) are, absolutely, within the below average/bad range. I just figured that would be known but, yeah, they are absolutely at the bottom of the barrel. There is zero doubt the SEC has more average to above average teams than the Big 10 and I would never argue that but I don't see the gap being as wide as some feel it is. Where the SEC has 3-4 perenial championship contenders, the Big 10 has 1-2. I guess my point is I don't see the SEC as a week in, week out, war to win games but, rather, there are some rough games and others that are expected wins like any other conference. My personal opinion is the the other three conferences are below the two mentioned with the Pac10 being the better if USC can climb back again (which they will) and AZ continues to play well under RR.

A&M is a difficult team for me to place because I am caught between not being able to decide if they played so well because of Johnny Football or they really are a legit program. It's hard to determine as they were simply awful for many years but since coming to the SEC they played well two years, likely because of JF. I have, honestly, never seen a program become so terrible as Tennessee in such a short time. When Fulmer was there they were contending but since then they have been unable to do anything. I bet they are shooting themselves in the foot for getting rid of that guy. He loved that program.

Short? That slow bleed has been going on since 2003.

Yeah, the decline started while Fulmer was there. Without Cutcliffe he had a very hard time running a functional offense, and his last three recruiting classes sucked balls. You gotta hire the right coach and it took us three tries to do so. Happens. We're gonna win 8+ this year and 10+ the next.

I see Tennessee's season hinging on game #2 against Oklahoma. If they can beat Oklahoma then they could definitely pull off a 8-4. maybe even 9-3 type season. Drop the game to Oklahoma and a young teams confidence is shaken early and they're probably struggling to get bowl eligible again.

The good thing for Tennessee is, most of their "this game should be close" type games are at home. The games in which they are probably expected to lose are on the road anyways, so who cares. They'll lose @Alabama and @ Missouri, but they get South Carolina, Arkansas, and Oklahoma at home, which helps a ton, and then there are the games they should win no matter where they are played like Bowling Green, North Texas, Vandy, Kentucky, Western Carolina. So thats 5 gimme wins, should take at least 2 of 3 of that SC/Ark/Ok home slate, and you're back to bowl eligibility right there. Take 3 of 3 and manage 1 big upset(Bama, Georgia, Mizzou) and you're at a 8/9 win season.

I don't see how Missouri is an autoloss at all. It was close last year and I don't think people understand that 80% of our best players were underclassmen. Bama and Oklahoma will be rough. The rest will all be competitive.

OU is going to be bad again this year. They still don't have a QB. Tenn will definitely be competitive with them. They will also be competitive with Missouri. Bama is the only for sure loss.

Texas is going to be bad again. Only question is if they will break .500 this year.

Intrinsic_sl said:

To be fair Bama had like 24 coaches during that period. Hell I think I was coach there for a couple of hours in 2000, right after DuBose.

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I was in school when this was happening and this is 100% accurate. I think they made me Special Teams coordinator for a few days before the spring.