DayZ, Arma2, Arma3

Pironin_sl said:

I'd like to imagine you have some sort of game development experience. I'd also like to imagine that you truly understand the time sinks involved when creating a game from the ground up with the amount of tediousness involved such as DayZSA. But honestly I don't think you understand. Did you at all do your homework? Did you even read the many warnings and messages stating that this was a bare bones alpha? Did you even read where Rocket told people NOT to buy the game? I'm going to go out on a limb here and say no, no you didn't. I have played DayZ:Mod and it's many incarnations. I enjoy the standalone because it brings back the true nature of the beast. This isn't Battlefield. This isn't CoD. This is a SURVIVAL game. Come back to the Standalone in 6 months. See where it's at then. Then make your judgment. I'm willing to bet you'll be eating this post with some Pipsi to drink.

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Every time someone criticizes the state of the SA, someone comes along and says "DUDE DID YOU READ THE DISCLAIMER??" The gripes that Wrathcaster has are the same that I have. We're not criticizing an alpha for its lack of polish and playability, we're (and I think fairly) asking what the fuck Rocket has been doing in the 2 years since the SA has been announced. No one expected a finished game. But me personally not having played DayZ for about six months, I can't fathom how such little apparent progress has been made.

And no, I don't have any experience in game development, so you're free to reply to me with a dismissive attitude, as well. But I think since the SA was originally set to go live like a year ago makes a lot of people wonder what exactly has been done because as Wrathcaster said it feels like a big step back.

That said, the game is still somewhat fun to play.I just want to have some sort of reassurance that the $30 i payed to help further the game's development wasn't for nothing. Oh, and considering that I just spent 15 minutes running from a group of zombies that (1) wouldn't break aggro and (2) kept coming through the walls when i tried to hide indoors, and more often than not they only have to hit me one time to make me bleed, i'm not in a hurry for a larger zombie population until their poor functionality isn't quite so deadly.

Explosivo_sl said:

Every time someone criticizes the state of the SA, someone comes along and says "DUDE DID YOU READ THE DISCLAIMER??" The gripes that Wrathcaster has are the same that I have. We're not criticizing an alpha for its lack of polish and playability, we're (and I think fairly) asking what the fuck Rocket has been doing in the2 yearssince the SA has been announced. No one expected a finished game. But me personally not having played DayZ for about six months, I can't fathom how such little apparent progress has been made.

And no, I don't have any experience in game development, so you're free to reply to me with a dismissive attitude, as well. But I think since the SA was originally set to go live like a year ago makes a lot of people wonder what exactly has been done because as Wrathcaster said it feels like a big step back.

That said, the game is still somewhat fun to play.I just want to have some sort of reassurance that the $30 i payed to help further the game's development wasn't for nothing. Oh, and considering that I just spent 15 minutes running from a group of zombies that (1) wouldn't break aggro and (2) kept coming through the walls when i tried to hide indoors, and more often than not they only have to hit me one time to make me bleed, i'm not in a hurry for a larger zombie population until their poor functionality isn't quite so deadly.

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The MOD wasn't even released to the public 2 years ago. The SA didn't begin until the middle of last year. It was supposed to be released by XMAS then was scrapped at which point it has taken exactly ONE year to get to the point of where they're at now. I'm GOING to ask you why didn't you read the disclaimers because. WHY DID YOU NOT?! How on earth can you criticize a game that was even told by the creator NOT to buy it. Your logic kills me. As far as your 30 dollar contribution. Have you read the patch notes from the last 3 patches that have been coming out once a day?? Rocket has stated he wanted a stable architecture for the game instead of piling in all these features that may or may not work and have a game that's in worse condition than what it's in now.

annnnnd I'm downloading Nether since it's on sale on Steam today, anyone else playing?

Pironin_sl said:

The MOD wasn't even released to the public 2 years ago. The SA didn't begin until the middle of last year. It was supposed to be released by XMAS then was scrapped at which point it has taken exactly ONE year to get to the point of where they're at now. I'm GOING to ask you why didn't you read the disclaimers because. WHY DID YOU NOT?! How on earth can you criticize a game that was even told by the creator NOT to buy it. Your logic kills me. As far as your 30 dollar contribution. Have you read the patch notes from the last 3 patches that have been coming out once a day?? Rocket has stated he wanted a stable architecture for the game instead of piling in all these features that may or may not work and have a game that's in worse condition than what it's in now.

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Again, you're missing the point. My criticism is not "this game is so bad omg i wasted my money," its "what have they been doing all this time?" No need to get so worked up. I still think the game is fun, I still play it. I just question the pace of progress and worry --because of the pace thus far--that it will take a long time to get the game to a playable state.

so nether? sell me on this game ut

i wanna spend my money on this, dayz sA or dayz arma2

nether has a total of like 2 recommendations

I don't know how anyone can stand to play Day Z for longer than 10 minutes with the mouse acceleration. I've never in my life experienced such an amazingly comprehensively fucked input system than what they have going on with mouse accel in day z standalone

It's not any different than the mod? If you're talking about the delay when trying to turn/horizontal movement, that's just arma2. It's designed to use that aiming deadzone thing rather than be an actual FPS.

Anyone else having issues with Downloads on Steam? Recently they just seem to stall and never update anymore.

Sorry for not being DayZ related.

Nether is just WarZ 2.0, I don't know how Ut of all people can possibly recommend it.

Utnayan_sl said:

Whatdya think Heko? I saw you played for about an hour.

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Wasn't bad but having to start and stop the game over and over to get my mouse sensitivity just right is a bit annoying. I'm going to fuck with it more here shortly, most of the loot I found was always around tents I noticed.

http://i.imgur.com/GiQCNQL.jpg

loot map appearently

Ronne_sl said:

Nether is just WarZ 2.0, I don't know how Ut of all people can possibly recommend it.

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100% flat out wrong.

It's not DayZ, but it's not WarZ either. It's a fun stop gap while SA gets finished. Or, it could get all the love in the world and hop DayZ.

Played it for a lil bit and it is certainly fun.

It's the WarZ. The entire inventory system, character creation, marketplace, loot hoard system, everything, is cribbed right from WarZ. It's "made" by a mobile game studio with funding from the same people who funded WarZ, and shares most of the same publishing staff.

NOPE, NOT WARZ AT ALL.

TecKnoe_sl said:

so nether? sell me on this game ut

i wanna spend my money on this, dayz sA or dayz arma2

nether has a total of like 2 recommendations

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Arms2 Dayz Epoch. Vanilla Dayz is boring after playing the more MMO-like Epoch.

Ronne_sl said:

It's the WarZ. The entire inventory system, character creation, marketplace, loot hoard system, everything, is cribbed right from WarZ. It's "made" by a mobile game studio with funding from the same people who funded WarZ, and shares most of the same publishing staff.

NOPE, NOT WARZ AT ALL.

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Nope, the game I bought says Nether.

Learn2read.

Edit: So, because Gearbox did both Duke Nukem Forever AND Colonial Marine that makes both Borderlands games utter shit? Show the judge on the doll where the WarZ touched you.

Mouse acceleration is garbage, but it takes a whole 10 seconds to turn it off. I feel the same as Ronne and Wrathcaster do more or less. The Dayz mods mostly came out 6-9 months after vanilla hit mainstream, and they all had massive improvements and changes. SA will probably be awesome when it's done, but in a year it feels like they've made so little progress compared to post-vanilla mods that took everything to another level. I'm not a developer either, but it's disappointing to see what a paid team has accomplished so far compared to dudes just doing it for free in their spare time.

Arma 2 Dayz with either Origins (my favorite) or Epoch is still an amazing game even though it's clunky.