Deadlock - Valve makes games?
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Guest, did you like the last podcast notification?? Well here's the second one, and for the third podcast! Yep. This Thursday 8-8-24 at 7pm Central
Go here to check out his podcast thread for info on topics and links!Go into the FoH discord and find the Happy Time Fun Hour channel and give it a listen!
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jeydax
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Aazrael
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I got my code from the GF yesterday. I should be able to invite other people, PM your Steam friend code if you still need one and ill give it a go.
Edit: Tried it for a few minutes in training mode and I don't think this is a game for me at all. Also did not really like the look of the characters in this, felt similar to that dead game Concorde.
Edit: Tried it for a few minutes in training mode and I don't think this is a game for me at all. Also did not really like the look of the characters in this, felt similar to that dead game Concorde.
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ronne
Nǐ hǎo, yǒu jīn zi ma?
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So after playing some more some random thoughts
For context I played League pretty hard at release after years of WC3 DOTA, then moved to DOTA2 eventually and floated around legend/ancient there for a while, so I'm no pro but I'm not new to mobas either.
The movement in this game is really going to gatekeep a lot people from being 'good'. The stamina/sprint/jump/slide system is so amazingly powerful if you have the APM to do it it's kinda wild, and you can get more stam pips/regen them/leech them with items. The gulf between someone twitchy with high enough APM to be properly sliding > jumping > blinking everywhere and someone just sprinting there is astronomical, to say nothing of trying to actually shoot them or hit them with your skillshots while they are flailing around like a cracked out hummingbird.
Headshot builds are similarly going to really divide people based on actual FPS skills. Being able to consistently land headshots with the right items on a character like Geist with a relatively slow firing, hard hitting gun and her ramping damage amplification is going to absolutely shred people vs not being a headshot setup. The game has a lot more CS adjacent skills in it than you might realize in that regard, as hitting with your gun is the bulk of some characters damage, and can be scaled to the fuckin moon.
The map feels somehow...off? To me anyway. It's so hyper dense with verticality, neutral creeps, breakables etc, that it's gonna take ages for people to even begin to learn how to traverse the thing efficiently, much less have any real awareness of their positioning relative to lane pushes.
Characters are all pretty cool though, lot of Dota/League abilities obviously, but they are fit together in some cool ways. Tho I am dubious of having the melee button on everyone, especially with the way it can be charged and the damage it deals. That one just feels like one too many layers on an already incredibly complex game, and most of your normies aren't even gonna know it exists much less utilize it, and then just be mad and confused when someone lands a stun on them oneshots them with a charged melee hit.
For context I played League pretty hard at release after years of WC3 DOTA, then moved to DOTA2 eventually and floated around legend/ancient there for a while, so I'm no pro but I'm not new to mobas either.
The movement in this game is really going to gatekeep a lot people from being 'good'. The stamina/sprint/jump/slide system is so amazingly powerful if you have the APM to do it it's kinda wild, and you can get more stam pips/regen them/leech them with items. The gulf between someone twitchy with high enough APM to be properly sliding > jumping > blinking everywhere and someone just sprinting there is astronomical, to say nothing of trying to actually shoot them or hit them with your skillshots while they are flailing around like a cracked out hummingbird.
Headshot builds are similarly going to really divide people based on actual FPS skills. Being able to consistently land headshots with the right items on a character like Geist with a relatively slow firing, hard hitting gun and her ramping damage amplification is going to absolutely shred people vs not being a headshot setup. The game has a lot more CS adjacent skills in it than you might realize in that regard, as hitting with your gun is the bulk of some characters damage, and can be scaled to the fuckin moon.
The map feels somehow...off? To me anyway. It's so hyper dense with verticality, neutral creeps, breakables etc, that it's gonna take ages for people to even begin to learn how to traverse the thing efficiently, much less have any real awareness of their positioning relative to lane pushes.
Characters are all pretty cool though, lot of Dota/League abilities obviously, but they are fit together in some cool ways. Tho I am dubious of having the melee button on everyone, especially with the way it can be charged and the damage it deals. That one just feels like one too many layers on an already incredibly complex game, and most of your normies aren't even gonna know it exists much less utilize it, and then just be mad and confused when someone lands a stun on them oneshots them with a charged melee hit.
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jeydax
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Palum
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I watched some streams of this and man it just doesn't look very good. The moba pacing combined with bullet sponge just left me with the impression that it was just slow. That and the environment and everything looks half finished. That may be the case, but it seems really short of character despite trying to be kitschy Blizzard art style.
Add in all the weird ass characters which are fine in a high fantasy setting but just look like a gaggle of retards in a city.
Maybe they'll turn this around but wasn't expecting to be this turned off just by watching it.
Add in all the weird ass characters which are fine in a high fantasy setting but just look like a gaggle of retards in a city.
Maybe they'll turn this around but wasn't expecting to be this turned off just by watching it.
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I havent got a chance to play this yet, but does this game suffer from the same MOBA type design flaw? Your team is behind so you know 95% you will lose, the team you are fighting also knows you will lose as well, but you have no option other than play another hour of this game till its end? Wasting both teams time?
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Nirgon
YOU HAVE NO POWER HERE
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Remember when "Faker" from League of Legends lost a silver game lol
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I can shoot an invite to anyone who wants it. Just DM me and I'll drop you my friend code.
Edit: I run a few games on evenings with a co-worker and his friend and I'm terribad at it But it's somewhat fun sometimes.
Edit: I run a few games on evenings with a co-worker and his friend and I'm terribad at it
But it's somewhat fun sometimes.
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Lodi
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Yep. Love the game but this is still absolutely the case. If I see us lose First Blood and then one guy is getting pushed super hard I know we have a decent chance of losing. Having said that, early game doesn't seem to mean as much as it does in a typical MOBA. I see teams turn it around mid-game all the time.
Caliane
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I watched arch play this for a bit. It looked pretty solid/fun to me.
he was just terrible at it though. and in the end declared he hated it. more that he just didn't enjoy it, not that it was bad. pretty sure much of this was him being terrible.
zero team play. he was playing the witch sniper, and just run and gunning.
the skyrail system is brilliant. I think this could be expanded. allowing it to cross lanes.
did feel like there was too much onscreen at once. tons of visual clutter. upgrades/etc also a bit crazy. too much shit.
I think I only played SMite for like 4 hours. didn't love it.
he was just terrible at it though. and in the end declared he hated it. more that he just didn't enjoy it, not that it was bad. pretty sure much of this was him being terrible.
zero team play. he was playing the witch sniper, and just run and gunning.
the skyrail system is brilliant. I think this could be expanded. allowing it to cross lanes.
did feel like there was too much onscreen at once. tons of visual clutter. upgrades/etc also a bit crazy. too much shit.
I think I only played SMite for like 4 hours. didn't love it.
Noodleface
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I actually really like this game. You can get snowballed pretty hard though. I am a smooth brained retard but I feel like 4 lanes isn't great and wish it was 3.
If anyone needs an invite just add me on steam.
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If anyone needs an invite just add me on steam.
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Cybsled
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I think the biggest initial hurdle is not knowing what the fuck the shop items are going to do for your character and what other characters do. The community builds you can select are nice because the creator can at least leave notes that tell you what the shop items will do for your character
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