Depression

Decided to browse through the study:

- Moderate to high excercise (along w/ all the normal socio-economic/etc factors) was accounted/adjusted for in the study.
- Only dietary creatine was considered (supplemental users excluded)
- Most significant findings among women between 20 and 39
- Interesting findings, needs a more targeted/specific study

ToeMissile said:

Decided to browse through the study:

- Moderate to high excercise (along w/ all the normal socio-economic/etc factors) was accounted/adjusted for in the study.
- Only dietary creatine was considered (supplemental users excluded)
- Most significant findings among women between 20 and 39
- Interesting findings, needs a more targeted/specific study

Dietary creatine intake and depression risk among U.S. adults - Translational Psychiatry

Creatine monohydrate is actively being researched for its antidepressant effects, yet little is known about the link between dietary creatine and depression risk. This study examines the association between dietary creatine and depression in U.S. adults, using data from the 2005 to 2012 National...

www.nature.com

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What are the main sources of dietary creatine?
I'm reading red meat and fish? not sure if accurate.

I eat a lot... way too much red meat.
Fish not so much, I should work on that.

Kyougou said:

What are the main sources of dietary creatine?
I'm reading red meat and fish? not sure if accurate.

I eat a lot... way too much red meat.
Fish not so much, I should work on that.

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That’s what I read as well, I didn’t follow up with any of my own research.
Other stuff I feel like I can work on that’ll have a broader health effect than just a single compound (Hello sleep and exercise)

You really aren't going to increase creatine intake with food. It's just not possible to consume that much meat. Only choice is supplement and that should be in the form of monohydrate creatine powder.

Jozu said:

My best friend died tonight.

Lost my mom, my dad, and now my bro. Needless to say it seems like death follows me. But perhaps thats a bit fatalistic, as everyone loses their parents eventually, but man, this shit will never get easier to deal with.

Is depression a mindset? I have found I have more success just getting angry with myself and forcing myself to think on a different frequency. How do you fix a problem you didnt create or have no chance fixing?

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Consider reading these books:

Art of Living - Sharon Lebell / Epictetus
On the Shortness of Life - Seneca

They are both very short / can be read on the toilet and will help with mindset. There are deeper dives from there.

Borzak said:

Started drinking some. Never been a drinker at all. Got nothing else to do. Not like I'm working or driving.

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Be careful, some turns into a lot real quick.
Where did the thought come from? just boredom?

Borzak said:

Physically cant do anything. A good day I get to walk to the porch and back. Lifting a 7.5 pound barbell saps it out of me for the day and part of the next. I often just collapse and lay on the floor and sleep where i fall. Just waiting to die. wasting away.

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How old are you?
What is your lifestyle?
Is this something from an ailment you have?

I have those and more questions.

I would advise against drinking.
Believe me... I am way beyond starting and its fucked up.

Any excuse does it for me to drink heavily... it started once a week... then weekends... and now... at best its every other day.

Borzak said:

Physically cant do anything. A good day I get to walk to the porch and back. Lifting a 7.5 pound barbell saps it out of me for the day and part of the next. I often just collapse and lay on the floor and sleep where i fall. Just waiting to die. wasting away.

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Reading what I said it may have come off as a "savior" vibe...
That is not it... I'm listening, I have my own stuff.
If you have a good endgame, I'd be glad to hear it!

Jozu said:

My best friend died tonight.

Lost my mom, my dad, and now my bro. Needless to say it seems like death follows me. But perhaps thats a bit fatalistic, as everyone loses their parents eventually, but man, this shit will never get easier to deal with.

Is depression a mindset? I have found I have more success just getting angry with myself and forcing myself to think on a different frequency. How do you fix a problem you didnt create or have no chance fixing?

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Disclaimer: I am only 25 and haven't been around the block as many times as everyone else, additionally never officially diagnosed with depression but I have have felt that way for extended periods of time previously.

I'm sorry you're going though all of this immense loss back to back. I watched my cousin and aunt die of inoperable cancer, he was only 27( I was 13 at the time), and still you've lost more than I can imagine having to cope with. What's left of my heart goes out to you brother.

In my experience depression is a 50/50 split between having an accepting mindset and, as cliché as it sounds, letting time wash over you and allowing yourself to feel pain guilt free, even if that means angry crying on the way to work. Granted the former requires an active approach and figuring out what you need to maintain it while the latter is more passive.

As someone who consistently drinks deeply from their bottomless well of anger for over a decade I can absolutely understand where you're coming from. Anger is a very engaging emotion and can no doubt provide a sense of purpose and relief from pain during times like this. Anger is normal and even a healthy motivator if channeled properly. I'm just some borderline lurker but please do your best to feel it but not lose yourself to the anger like I have before, it is very easy to be a slave to an emotion that is so engaging.

I have had some success with my own personal battles by trying to honor the deceased by taking solo trips to places they deemed sacred and soaking it all in .Accepting that you are only one man BUT, can still rely on friends to give you perspective, guidance and support when you are ready for it is incredibly important to realize. You don't have to soldier through his alone man.