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Playing catch up on my ignorance. I was told elsewhere that with perf and efficiency cores for the scheduler or whatever you have to go windows 11. Does that mean buying 11, or is it a free update if you own a 10 key?

I'm looking at doing my new build since my 3080 likely doesn't fit case and I might use old comp for other things.

If I dont plan on OC'ing myself. But I would like to mine a little possibly (if that matters or is even possible with my LHR card), and otherwise just game. Would there be an argument for a H670 over a Z690 paired with a plain 12600/12700 non k. The discord mist sent me seem to be all wojack face over 12400's for gaming. Or are these bad idea's because the price difference is so small vs K's and a Z690? I did plan to keep to a DDR4 build.
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Free upgrade to Win11.

Your budget matters as does resale and future upgrades. Z690 now just makes it easier to move to a K SKU in the future, but overclocking any modern Intel or AMD CPU comes which a rather large power increase (sometimes 2X or more), coprresponding heat increase requiring more cooling, and for (arguably) not as much benefit as one could get in the past. Modern CPUs and GPUs do a lot of auto-boosting and are fairly good at it.
 
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Jovec said:
Free upgrade to Win11.

Your budget matters as does resale and future upgrades. Z690 now just makes it easier to move to a K SKU in the future, but overclocking any modern Intel or AMD CPU comes which a rather large power increase (sometimes 2X or more), coprresponding heat increase requiring more cooling, and for (arguably) not as much benefit as one could get in the past. Modern CPUs and GPUs do a lot of auto-boosting and are fairly good at it.
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Future upgrades a concer, though this computer lasted me like 6 years without upgrades really, I've never sold old parts before, this 1080ti might be the first for me.

By what you said, all the more reason maybe skip the k skew though for my purpose? Though if the price difference low enough, maybe not.

Browsing pc part picker, the numbers seem rather drastic between a 12700 and a k though, so a bit confused unless it's just wrong? (performance boost nearly same, core clock is 1.5 ghz worse)
 
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Future upgrades a concer, though this computer lasted me like 6 years without upgrades really, I've never sold old parts before, this 1080ti might be the first for me.

By what you said, all the more reason maybe skip the k skew though for my purpose? Though if the price difference low enough, maybe not.

Browsing pc part picker, the numbers seem rather drastic between a 12700 and a k though, so a bit confused unless it's just wrong? (performance boost nearly same, core clock is 1.5 ghz worse)
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You will be hard pressed to tell the difference between a 12700 and 12700K unless you are benchmarking. Base clocks are a meaningless number on modern CPUs. For media/office/gaming use they will be near identical. Sounds like H670/non-K will be just fine for you.
 
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Jovec said:
You will be hard pressed to tell the difference between a 12700 and 12700K unless you are benchmarking. Base clocks are a meaningless number on modern CPUs. For media/office/gaming use they will be near identical. Sounds like H670/non-K will be just fine for you.
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Both Asus aoruses, currently parts picker has me at $475 for the H670 and 12700F Vs $600 for K + Z670 asus prime wifi. Was hoping for a bit better price gap.
 
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Xexx Xexx I kind of want to buy this. Looks like it would be pretty glorious for water cooling double 360 rads up top no problem.

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I saw this shit earlier - fuckin massive ass PC and i fuckin love things with 200mm fans - However i had lumbar surgery im not sure im able to work on that - i may end up down for a day or two just from working on that :D
 
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I saw this shit earlier - fuckin massive ass PC and i fuckin love things with 200mm fans - However i had lumbar surgery im not sure im able to work on that - i may end up down for a day or two just from working on that :D
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Just looking at how much space they have left in the case after their build is pretty amusing. Thing looks fucking great
 
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Well, I think everything is up and running. VMD finally was resolved.

If nothing else I would suggest going in to the Windows install with your motherboard's driver for RST and doing that during setup and not after the fact. Once RST was installed the VMD problems cleared up.

Now I have no idea what current benchmark tools are out there just to make sure. HWInfo says that the CPU is idle at 26-29C. Not going to fiddle with any OC, just have BAR enabled on the GPU. Will try installing a few things and getting ready for Elden Ring.

Passmark? UserBenchmark? I don't want to pay for 3D Mark.
 
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This seems like a good deal for anyone looking for a prebuilt to avoid the gpu shenanigans. $1700

Intel Core i7-12700KF Processor (8X 3.60GHz + 4X 2.70GHz /25MB L3 Cache)
16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4-3600MHz RGB Memory
1TB M.2 NVMe Solid State Drive
GeForce RTX 3070 8GB GDDR6 Graphics
iBUYPOWER 240mm Addressable RGB Liquid Cooling System
Z690 DDR4 Motherboard
650W 80 PLUS Gold Certified Power Supply
iBUYPOWER Slate HAKO MR Tempered Glass ARGB Case
Keyboard & Mouse Included
Windows 11 Home
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Any help evaluating ram any further than this? I am set on 32gb so please don't dissuade there, I assume 2 sticks > 4 sticks. I know mist didnt want G skill for some reason but I dont know how else to filter these to pick a winner. All are 3600 CL 16 pretty much.

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Also, everyone runs to the samsung NVME SSD's. But should I consider cheap stuff like a Sabrent rocket for any reason? PCparts picker short on stats for it to be clear why there's a bunch of $90 ones before jumping to $140.
 
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Sludig said:
Also, everyone runs to the samsung NVME SSD's. But should I consider cheap stuff like a Sabrent rocket for any reason? PCparts picker short on stats for it to be clear why there's a bunch of $90 ones before jumping to $140.
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Not looking at your prices but the $90 may be Gen3 which are ~3500 mb/s compared to Gen4 which are ~5000? Although I do think Sabrent has a $110 Gen4 1TB that I saw after ordering my 980 Pro.
 
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If you are looking for a gen 3 you aren’t going to get much better value than this one

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Gen 4 id say Samsung 980 pro isn’t worth the price tag anymore unless you can find a good sale. Quite a lot of options now at around 40% cheaper and only slightly lower speeds. I’m using a pny one that’s getting around 5500 read which is good enough for me at $120. Did get a 980 pro after I already got the previous one, but stuck it in the ps5.
 
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Been 6 years since i had to buy one, what's a good site or reddit sub for windows grey market keys
 
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