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I can believe that the Dark Below had an extremely high purchase rate. A lot of people were locked in from season passes but a lot of people simply really liked Destiny back then.

I think things are going to be very different for HOW though. It's coming after a major content gap and a lot of people think that the Dark Below was incredibly weak. People are going to be less likely to just throw money at Bungie after the perception that they got burned on Dark Below. Add into the fact that the new expansion doesn't really add much and a lot of people may just decide to sit this one out. Personally I plan on taking a wait and see approach. I have no intention of buying HOW just yet. I've got other games to keep me busy and I haven't touched Destiny in over 2 weeks now.
 

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The same thing every game company does since they created this whole DLC mess?

Go look at any DLC right now, there are very few that give you anything, and most of it is on the disc...


There is a huge difference in todays market between what video games call an expansion, and what they call a DLC... Problem with bungie is they messed up the wording because they are retarded. They are calling everything an expansion, and that is why people are going ape shit.

Comet will be their true xpac.
 

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Cite it, bitch.
Too hard to cut through the pages of Destiny articles on google to find the article that gamespot printed

Just looking at a 16 million user base according to forbes, and the fact the DLC launched in Dec 2014 and is still one of the top paid add ons on the PSN store in March 2015. Put 2 and 2 together..

So 90% of people hate Destiny yet they are still buying the Dark below 4 monthes after its release. Yeah ok...


PlayStation Store: March 2015's Top Sellers

PS4 Add-ons
1 Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare - Havoc
2 Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare - Season Pass
3 Destiny Expansion I: The Dark Below
4 Dragon Ball Xenoverse - Season Pass
5 Battlefield Hardline Premium
6 WWE 2K15 - NXT ArRIVAL
7 Dragon Ball Xenoverse GT PACK 1
8 Destiny Expansion Pass
9 Resident Evil Revelations 2 - Complete Season
10 Far Cry 4 Valley of the Yetis


http://blog.us.playstation.com/2015/...s-top-sellers/
 

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I'm pretty disappointed, but not surprised.

I don't hate it just have other things with better risk / reward and better co-op models to choose from. Our console "squad" is built around 4-6 man, we already had to make changes for the original destiny model and nothing I've read here about HoW awes me.
 

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Yes 90% of people hate destiny yet it was the top paid DLC for 2014...
I'm sure that counts fools like me who bought into the bullshit and got the limited edition at launch. I would have gladly taken a $30 refund long before the first DLC finally dropped, and even moreso today after seeing how shitty the second looks to be. Sadly, that's not an option, just a lesson learned to never buy a season pass again and more importantly never to trust Bungie.

I actually did install the game on my PS4 just to see how much better the graphics looked. Started to do one mission after sorting out my gear that got shit on in the revamp, then turned it off about 10 minutes in and haven't looked at it since.
 

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Too hard to cut through the pages of Destiny articles on google to find the article that gamespot printed

Just looking at a 16 million user base according to forbes, and the fact the DLC launched in Dec 2014 and is still one of the top paid add ons on the PSN store in March 2015. Put 2 and 2 together..

So 90% of people hate Destiny yet they are still buying the Dark below 4 monthes after its release. Yeah ok...


PlayStation Store: March 2015?s Top Sellers

PS4 Add-ons
1 Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare ? Havoc
2 Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare ? Season Pass
3 Destiny Expansion I: The Dark Below
4 Dragon Ball Xenoverse ? Season Pass
5 Battlefield Hardline Premium
6 WWE 2K15 ? NXT ArRIVAL
7 Dragon Ball Xenoverse GT PACK 1
8 Destiny Expansion Pass
9 Resident Evil Revelations 2 ? Complete Season
10 Far Cry 4 Valley of the Yetis


http://blog.us.playstation.com/2015/...s-top-sellers/
Boy that sure is an impressive list it's going against. You failed to prove it was the top DLC of 2014, * And * you failed to see that is specific to PS4 users only, not all platforms. Also, there are no numbers as to the amount purchased on the PS. Stating the obvious, I would venture MAYBE you saw about 25% of it's total install base purchasing The Dark Below. And for God's sake man the expansion pass didn't beat out the heavy hitter there - the ultimate in DLC for a WWE wrestling game.
 

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I'm sure that counts fools like me who bought into the bullshit and got the limited edition at launch. I would have gladly taken a $30 refund long before the first DLC finally dropped, and even moreso today after seeing how shitty the second looks to be. Sadly, that's not an option, just a lesson learned to never buy a season pass again and more importantly never to trust Bungie.

I actually did install the game on my PS4 just to see how much better the graphics looked. Started to do one mission after sorting out my gear that got shit on in the revamp, then turned it off about 10 minutes in and haven't looked at it since.
Don't worry though, you are now a marketing tool. Because you logged in for those 10 minutes to remind yourself of how much the game sucked, along with 5 million others and 4 people who bought it used last month, you are now a concurrent to boot.
 

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It proves you have no idea what you are talking about. We know that the PSN (that is ps3 and Ps4 users fyi) has more users then anyone right now ,and it is still the top 3 paid DLC in March...

You say 90% of people hate destiny. I say those above figures say you are wrong.

So much for Destiny tanking eh


Now scurry off young one before you lose your Avatar to me again. We all know how this turned out the last time we argued.
 

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Here let's talk about what happens when you release a real content pack.

Undead Nightmare - Red Dead Redemption Wiki

For 10 dollars less to boot. This has more content than all of Destiny and it's DLC put together.

And don't worry Column, it's tanking. Regardless of some paid for marketing spin from Forbes so you can point to numbers to try and prove a point of a game's success, which are horridly skewed. I have seen you do the Microsoft math before too back when shipped to retail and sold through was a completely foreign thing to you.
 

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I won that Xbox bet btw back then just an FYI. I've taken more Avatars on this forum then anyone

You are just one scalp of many... Xbro

Yep Destiny is clearly tanking fellas LOL. I guess Activsion pays off PSN as well.
 

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I'm holding out that this arena mode is going to be fun and people are fretting for nothing. After all, they have made some great changes to the game since release.

After how ce turned out, i don't mind if they delay the next raid to make it better. After all, ce is essentially a 3 man raid anyways (or less) and can be completed as fast as some nightfall strikes (other than crota himself on hm, which was/is a clusterfuck).

I'm not complaining about buying the season pass. I've put in a relatively small 400ish hours into destiny (by far the most ever for a console game) and the few cents per hour of entertainment PLUS more from HoW is totally worth the cost.
 

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The Dark Below DLC: $19.99

4 Story missions (Cut from the original game) - Complete with go here, go there, "OH NO HERE THEY COME" defeat 3 waves of enemies, quit. No impact on the story (being there is none)
2 Strikes (Cut from the original game)
1 Raid - Crota's end
3 Crucible maps

Undead Nightmare - $9.99

This story mission - Which is 100% larger than Destiny's shipped story mode with DLC and actually * IS * a story.

In Undead Nightmare, John is in his house with Abigail and Jack. They are all talking about general things, like a book Jack is reading, however they mention that Uncle hasn't returned from what he was doing yet. John however states that because of the storm, Uncle has probably went to a dry place nearby and will stay there until the storm subsides. Uncle is then seen loitering outside the house; however, he is undead. Later that night, while John and Abigail are asleep, Uncle invades their room and tries to attack them, and John fights back, seemingly knocking him out. John heads for his gun in a nearby shed; however, on his way back, Abigail runs out of the house screaming, pursued by Uncle, who bites her in the neck. John shoots Uncle in the head, ending his suffering and tends to Abigail. Jack comes outside and tries to help his mother. However, Abigail becomes infected and bites Jack, infecting him. Meanwhile, John runs for his lasso and hogties both of them. After giving them both a plate of food, he leaves them in the house and sets out to find a cure.

John then goes to Blackwater, where he finds Professor MacDougal, who returned from Yale to document the undead infestation. He claims he has left his bags with Nastas, and heads down the street to grab them. MacDougal is killed by an infected Nastas however, and John is forced to clear out Blackwater and look for more survivors. He finds a family on a roof, killing undead, however they are no help. John finds another group of survivors, who all give him multiple theories they suspect caused the plague, including a "Snake oil merchant" and a "Freak with a glass eye".

If John goes to Tanner's Reach, he will meet a hunter who claims to have just shot a Sasquatch, starting "The Birth of the Conservation Movement" mission, which has John try to hunt down six Sasquatches. After finding the sixth one however, John learns that his hunting has doomed the Sasquatches and the last one there asks John to kill him because his family is dead. John can choose to kill him or not.

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If John decides to follow the "Snake Oil Merchant" lead, they will find Nigel West Dickens in Fort Mercer, trying to sell his elixir as a cure and repellent to the plague. John however forces Nigel to stop selling it, and Nigel complies. He hands out free samples to see if they like it. The elixir however is actually more of a bait to the infected, and the drinker is killed by several undead soon after drinking. Nigel is disappointed and asks John to find him five Desert Sage and five Violet Snowdrop to see if he can make a better cure. He also gives John some of the elixir to use as bait. After John finds the flowers, Nigel makes a phosphorus bullet coating with it, and then asks John to find him some old parts he needs. After John finds the parts, Nigel uses it for a Blunderbuss, telling John that it is the ideal weapon for undead killing. He also tells John that he is trying to get to Mexico and should be in Solomon's Folly in a few days. At Solomon's Folly, John finds out that all paths to Mexico are blocked, and that Nigel has no way of getting to Mexico. However, Nigel tells John that if he gets a US Army uniform from some deserters, he can sneak on a train manned by the US Army that is headed to Mexico. Nigel goes off and John doesn't meet him again.

If John decides to follow the "Freak with a glass eye" lead, they will find Seth in The Old Bacchus Place, playing cards with an undead Moses Forth. John asks Seth if there's a cure to the plague, and Seth tells him to clear the graveyards. After John clears out 3 graveyards and goes back to Seth, Seth tells him that the cause of all this has something to do with the Aztecs, and tells him to head down for Mexico if he wants to cure the plague.

In MacFarlane's Ranch, John meets Bonnie MacFarlane, who tasks him with trying to find her father, Drew MacFarlane in the barn, although she tells him he has been in there for more than a day. After entering the barn through a window, John kills several of the trapped Undead within. Then, John finds Drew in the barn, zombified. John picks up the Winchester Repeater and is forced to kill Drew, he then goes to Bonnie and tells her what happened, who is deeply saddened by the news.

In Plainview, John finds D.S. MacKenna, who tells John to bring him a Retcher, because Mackenna desires to make a zombie movie. Once John does so however, Mackenna sets it and another undead loose. They then both proceed to attack Mackenna, who is turned undead. John then can kill all three of them.

In Armadillo, John meets Marshal Leigh Johnson, and Johnson asks John to find Eli and Jonah, who have been missing for a few hours. John finds Eli eating Jonah, and they both attack John. John then has to kill them both, and tell Johnson the news, claiming that they both died with their bellies full. Johnson also gives John a Sawed-off Shotgun.

In Fort Mercer, John sees an Army Captain posting up a missing persons poster for Millicent Waterbury. The Captain asks John to find the girl, and John finds Millicent in Pleasance House, although undead are trying to attack her. After John saves Millicent, they head back to Fort Mercer and the Captain thanks John and tells him there's more missing persons if he wants to help them.

If John heads to the deserters, he finds them being attacked by undead, he can either help them and earn the uniform, or steal it and suffer the consequences. After John has the uniform, he can head to the train, where he finds the US Army being lightly hassled by undead. After John helps them clear it out, they head to the border. At the border, the captain tells them all to get off and clear the roadblock. However, they are attacked by undead and the US Army retreats, leaving John to kill the undead. After he has dealt with them, John can man the train and smash through the roadblock into Mexico.

Mexico

In Mexico, John finds that it is actually in worse shape than America, and he heads to Las Hermanas, where he meets the Mother Superior. She tells John that other nuns are not as resourceful as her, and that he needs to head inside Las Hermanas and save the town. After doing so, Mother Superior thanks John and he asks her why the plague is happening. She tells John that she needs a normal Undead to really find out. After John brings her a normal Undead, Mother Superior tells John that she suspects evil, and she pours holy water on the undead, who is briefly bathed in blue flame, but is not killed. She asks John if he can clear out the Sepulcro graveyard for her, and she gives him Holy Water. After he returns, Mother Superior tells him that a woman told her that the cause of all this is because of something Abraham Reyes has done. John is then tasked with heading to Escalera and finding out what's really causing all this.

In Casa Madrugada, John meets Landon Ricketts, who is busy ridding the town of undead. Landon seems to be holding off all the undead by himself, and he tells John that if he can find something that attracts the undead, he can combine it with Dynamite and really kill the undead quick. After John brings Landon undead bait and Dynamite, Landon combines them and makes Boom Bait, after handing it to John, they say farewells and John leaves. After Landon makes the second Boom Bait, sometimes a glitch appears when there is two of him.

In Escalera, John finds a woman, who tells him that Abraham Reyes is up ahead, John finds Reyes, however, he is Undead and is trying to kill a woman. After John kills Reyes, the woman tells John that the cause of all this is because Reyes' lust for invulnerability made him steal an ancient Aztec mask, and this is why the plague started. They take the mask to the crypt where Reyes found it, and after John places the mask back in the altar the women reveals herself to be Ayauhteotl, an Aztec goddess. This action causes the undead to be returned to normal, and John heads home to his family.

Epilogue

Upon heading back to Beecher's Hope, John finds that Abigail and Jack are fine, and they are happy again. About 2 months later, John is dead, and in Escalera Seth is shown stealing the ancient mask, causing all dead, including John to return as undead. However, as John was buried with Holy Water, he returns as an undead with a man's soul, allowing the player to still play as him.[/quote]

Christ ^^^ That alone has more content than the entirety of Destiny and it's 60 DLC packs combined until 2045. But then...

?Undead Animals unleashed into the world.
?New dynamic events.
?Brand new gameplay mechanics.
?Mythical creatures (the Four Horses of the Apocalypse, Unicorn, Sasquatch and Chupacabra).
?A brand new Secret Location.
?New weapons (Blunderbuss,Torch (replacing the Hunting Knife), Holy Water, Undead Bait and Boom Bait)(none of which can be made golden in Multiplayer).
?3 new outfits (Undead Hunter, Union Suit, and Legend of the Apocalypse).
?8 new multiplayer undead characters. Poe Boll, Magic Jackson, Zombie Ricketts, Zombie Marston, Viper Craven, Ismael Raimi,Sarah Reese, and Paco Romero.
?New multiplayer game modes (Undead Overrun and Land Grab).

Soundtrack
Main article: Undead Nightmare Soundtrack

This is what happens when you put a real company up against Activision when it comes to bringing value to the dollar, which pays for itself in spades in it's revenue brought in for a company.

Don't defend the bullshit Activision is pulling here.
 

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Guess what they did it right, congratulations to a DLC that came out 5 years ago!

Now cite the hundreds of other DLC packs that have done it wrong...

Im looking at a mortal Kombat X one right now that is a 40 dollar day 1 DLC that offers a couple new characters and skins haha

Or how about a day 1 dlc for easy fatalitys for 10 bucks


Heres one from Namco. 30 bucks for 6 characters and a couple extra quests for DBZ Xenoverse

Clearly it is just Activision...


Even Hearthstone is like 20 bucks for a couple of cards, and a lame adventure mode. Get with the times man. We lost the DLC war a long time ago.
 

Utnayan

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Guess what they did it right, congratulations!

Now cite the hundreds of other DLC packs that have done it wrong...

Im looking at a mortal Kombat X one right now that is a 40 dollar day 1 DLC that offers a couple new characters and skins haha

Or how about a day 1 dlc for easy fatalitys for 10 bucks
You can earn all that in the game. They didn't cut it out and sell it as DLC. Nor did they make it any harder to earn in the game to incentivize people to spend money on it. You can earn all the unlocks in the Krypt, and you can earn all the easy mode Fatalities by playing.

If idiots want to fall for that, go nuts. That's a far cry from what Bungie is doing with Destiny by gutting a game and reselling it all based on Activision's orders and then continuing to shit on what's left on it's player base like some frankenstien marketing experiment to see just how far gamers can be pressed before they no longer buy their shit.
 

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You can earn all that in the game.
You can not earn those characters in Mortal Kombat X without buying them...


Activision's orders and then continuing to shit on what's left on it's player base like some frankenstien marketing experiment to see just how far gamers can be pressed before they no longer buy their shit
Activision didn't make the decision to cut the raid. That was Bungies decision. Obviously they felt it wasn't ready yet.


You are screaming about a DLC model that almost every company is doing now. As long as the DLC's are topping sales it doesn't matter how much you cry.

Even Blizzard is on the wagon now. Pretty much every game that is launched is coming out with a season pass, and very few are worthy.
 

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You can not earn those characters in Mortal Kombat X without buying them...
That's because those specific two are Jason Vorhees and Predator. They have a cost associated with movie license rights that is a sunk cost.

I personally think those two characters would be hilarious.

I just bought the first two unlocks of the HS expansion pack with gold from my dailies. And cards from playing. I suggest you do so. It's fairly fucking easy to do. I can earn the coins required for the Blackrock Expac wing in less than a week.
 

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I just bought the first two unlocks of the HS expansion pack with gold from my dailies. And cards from playing. I suggest you do so. It's fairly fucking easy to do. I can earn the coins required for the Blackrock Expac wing in less than a week.
Son Ive been playing since Alpha, might want to go check out that thread sometime. I'm pretty sure I've earned more gold in that game in my first month then you've had in a lifetime.

So now you cant get everything in game for Mortal kombat X without buying it hmmm. So 30 bucks for 2 characters what a deal!