LachiusTZ
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Diablo 3 - Reaper of Souls
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Guest, it's time once again for the massively important and exciting FoH Asshat Tournament!
Go here and give us your nominations!Who's been the biggest Asshat in the last year? Give us your worst ones!
Malinatar
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I can't even fathom depending on streaming/YouTube as a primary source of income especially if you have kids and other real life responsibilities and/or live in certain parts of the world where the cost of living is dirt cheap.
I guess he needs to get a real job or marry a sugar mama/man like the rest of society.
I guess he needs to get a real job or marry a sugar mama/man like the rest of society.
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I think it works out if you diversify or you're into sure stuff. Kinda like stocks I guess. Like if you're the kind of streamer who plays all the new games when they come out and rotate indie games and shit, you're pretty safe from this type of issue, as long as you don't get stuck on one game because you like it. There's plenty of streamers like that and a lot are successful, your audience won't always like what you're playing, but they know you'll only play it for x time, and some of them actually like discovering new genres and stuff. You constantly get new viewers when you happen to stream a game they like because you have big numbers so they're more likely to click on your stream and that replace the ones who get stuck on a specific game/don't like the genre you're currently streaming.
As for the other category, I'd say it's for games that are "too big to fail". LoL, Dota, Fortnite, CSGO etc. If you're a big streamer on these, you need to really fuck it up to lose your viewerbase, at least in the foreseeable future(10years or so, which honestly should be enough to build your money to live the rest of your life if you're streaming big enough and aren't a retard with your money). It is possible one of the game gets eaten up by another but it seems unlikely, and if it is, you could just switch to the new one.
Can be a problem for yourself though, for example all these streamers that were on PUBG and H1Z1 and whatever and were kinda forced to move to Fortnite to get good revenue, even though some of them probably didn't like it. I think it was Shroud who was complaining about it? Or maybe someone else but basically the moment they stop streaming Fortnite, they get a huge dip in viewers and they didn't like the game much so that sucked for them.
For youtube though I don't know, seems a lot shittier to me as a stable job. Just the fact Youtube can demonetize all your shit because you got too many reports or whatever, or that companies can DMCA flag your shit and then you get fucked. Twitch as long as you don't say American Inventor or Faggot or say titties streams are just titties streams, you're fine, but Youtube seems a lot more prone to just fuck you over randomly. And then I have no idea how much money you make on Youtube either.
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It's no different than any actor/personality job, except you're self promoted unless you're a Method fag, which is like getting hired by Fox or CNN for whatever show. Even the best don't work in that role forever, though I wish John Stewart was still around, but that's for a whole other thread.
Cybsled
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YouTube is harder to get money from for the little guys, which is why you see so many channels pimp their patreon. It is also why many make the move to twitch. Dexbonus once mentioned that even if you have had stable YouTube/twitch income for years, it is really hard to get a mortgage.
Malinatar
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I have no idea how much an "above average" Twitch/YouTube streamer makes but for arguments sake let's say 1-2K concurrent viewers on Twitch and 25-50K views on an average video with a few hundred likes. Does anyone know appx how much gross income that is a year? 50K?
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Haven't gotten past this post so not sure if anyone answered it but yes it does. I also think it's the best version of diablo 3 imo. Been playing portable mode for most of my 200 paragon levels super fun.
Brahma
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Nola
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Crone
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At the request of my 5 year old, I played a little of this on the Ps4 today, and damn was it fun! I haven't played really much the last 2 seasons on PC, and so it had been a while. Rolled up a Crusader, and then realized that's kinda dumb, since I can't numlock skills on the Ps4. But controller, couch, and big screen actually made this pretty fun again for a little while.
j00t
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i've heard a few reports from blizzard employees that higher ups were all really excited about immortal. they knew there'd be some backlash with no D4 announcement, but they were so enthralled with immortal that they thought disappointment in no d4 news would go away pretty quickly. the problem is that blizz employees are excited about immortal specifically for the chinese market being a gold mine for mobile games.
blizzard loves diablo immortal for financial reasons. the audience absolutely does not want to hear about how much money a company is going to make. the gaming industry wants to think of itself as hollywood. everyone gets crazy excited when the new marvel film does 8 billion on opening night. the gaming industry just does not function that way. maybe it will someday sooner or later, but it's not there now.
AladainAF
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I don't know the income you can make from that but I think it cannot be too bad, especially giving the gambling streams and the amazing amount that so many streamers constantly burn through.
I've made my living in Second Life for 6 years now, and I would think most people would have the same view, as the parallels are equal. The content you create belongs to you. Your designs, and creations are legally your IP. But at the end of the day, what you create is useless without the platform, and the platform is completely out of your control and you can wake up any day with your entire business shut down, or be banned from the service for.. whatever reason. When you have no control like that, you most certainly need to have a plan B option.
Tholan
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That's true, but it's not displeasant to hear that for instance Projekt Red did good with The Witcher 3, etc. When a game you liked playing also make the company that produced it happy, then everyone is happy and you can hope for a sequel.
Then the company get bought by financial groups, where they think IP is just another form of patent where whatever you do with the brand is gonna bring them $$.
There's a thousand or more nobodies losing money at it for every one that is making an actual living from it.
j00t
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yeah. it sucks. as consumers we want the studio to do JUST well enough that they don't shut down.