Diablo 3 - Reaper of Souls

goishen · Nov 13, 2018

I don't even think it's that bad. As consumers, we buy products that we want. It used to be, that games were products, and not MTX filled pieces of crap. Consumers don't wanna think about how a company is doing, financially. We're consumers, not financial prodigies.

If its games are good, then word will spread. Look at Blizzard in the early days.

Look at Blizzard now. There are your two extremes. That wasn't a BlizzCon. That was an InvestorCon.

Faith · Nov 13, 2018

Just got the Switch version of Diablo 3 (after the PC and PS4 versions)... Im afraid I will have to retire to my bathroom permanently now, and my GF will think I have an issue with my stomach.

Its glorious.

slippery · Nov 13, 2018

goishen said:
I don't even think it's that bad. As consumers, we buy products that we want. It used to be, that games were products, and not MTX filled pieces of crap. Consumers don't wanna think about how a company is doing, financially. We're consumers, not financial prodigies.

If its games are good, then word will spread. Look at Blizzard in the early days.

Look at Blizzard now. There are your two extremes. That wasn't a BlizzCon. That was an InvestorCon.

and their stock is reaping the rewards

Tarisk · Nov 13, 2018

Faith said:
Just got the Switch version of Diablo 3 (after the PC and PS4 versions)... Im afraid I will have to retire to my bathroom permanently now, and my GF will think I have an issue with my stomach.

Its glorious.

I've actually heard the switch version is decent too for what it is. I think it would have gone over better (if it didnt already) as a blizzcon announcement than the mobile fiasco.

a_skeleton_03 · Nov 13, 2018

Tarisk said:
I've actually heard the switch version is decent too for what it is. I think it would have gone over better (if it didnt already) as a blizzcon announcement than the mobile fiasco.

Yeah but it's the same as the PS4/Xbox version really so they didn't think it would get a lot of love I bet.

Caeden · Nov 13, 2018

You mean the same fucking game that they're trying to out-whore Skyrim with?

I had planned on getting the Necro pack next time it was on sale...but oops...POE!

Therage · Nov 13, 2018

Tarisk said:
I've actually heard the switch version is decent too for what it is. I think it would have gone over better (if it didnt already) as a blizzcon announcement than the mobile fiasco.

I've been enjoying the switch version to be fair I bought it before the announcement of immortal. But still fun to grind some gifts at downtime at work.

Cybsled · Nov 14, 2018

Tholan said:
That's true, but it's not displeasant to hear that for instance Projekt Red did good with The Witcher 3, etc. When a game you liked playing also make the company that produced it happy, then everyone is happy and you can hope for a sequel.
Then the company get bought by financial groups, where they think IP is just another form of patent where whatever you do with the brand is gonna bring them $$.

Consumers like it when a product they like makes money, be it a game or movie or whatever. They like it because it serves as a validation of what the consumer likes (ie, you/whoever likes the product), it increases the likelihood of a sequel or additional support, and people do genuinely like to see success where it is deserved.

When people don't like it when something makes money, it is for the exact opposite reasons above. It isn't that people don't want Blizzard to be successful, it is that they don't want what they perceive to be a bad product/behavior succeed and in turn produce more of that product/behavior.

a_skeleton_05 · Nov 14, 2018

Cybsled said:
Consumers like it when a product they like makes money, be it a game or movie or whatever. They like it because it serves as a validation of what the consumer likes (ie, you/whoever likes the product), it increases the likelihood of a sequel or additional support, and people do genuinely like to see success where it is deserved.

When people don't like it when something makes money, it is for the exact opposite reasons above. It isn't that people don't want Blizzard to be successful, it is that they don't want what they perceive to be a bad product/behavior succeed and in turn produce more of that product/behavior.

This is largely true other than your typical hipster/neckbeard types that stop liking things when they aren't niche.

The attitude about this stuff has been amplified in the past half decade or so from what I've seen. People are obsessed with sales charts and stock prices and every other metric at a level that is weird at times. I guess it comes from society becoming increasingly more focused on things like brand loyalty and people wanting to be walking billboards. Good little consumers like to feel they're having an impact on things in a world that they otherwise don't really have an effect on.

Needless · Nov 19, 2018

lol their PTR patch notes

How do we increase the fun?
Make all the 6 piece bonuses 10x+ higher! 3000% -> 13000%!!!!!

What an unsavably disconnected company

Nola · Nov 19, 2018

Needless said:
lol their PTR patch notes

How do we increase the fun?
Make all the 6 piece bonuses 10x+ higher! 3000% -> 13000%!!!!!

What an unsavably disconnected company

And a royal ring of grandeur buff too. wow.....

FFS Blizzard just either needs to shutdown Diablo, end it out of its misery or fucking sell the IP. They no longer have the slightest clue on how to make an ARPG.

Malakriss · Nov 19, 2018

If the torment doesn't increase beyond 13 then that's just completely ridiculous.

k^M · Nov 19, 2018

If they are making that the seasonal buff, they should have made it so it could stack with another ring either worn or cubed, or shit make it so you can cube + wear + passive buff it and it blows open the door on random ass build crazyness

Nola · Nov 19, 2018

k^M said:
If they are making that the seasonal buff, they should have made it so it could stack with another ring either worn or cubed, or shit make it so you can cube + wear + passive buff it and it blows open the door on random ass build crazyness

C'mon dude that would be too much fun and Blizzard does not want you to have fun while playing their games. Love the idea though and I would actually play in S16 too.

Kirun · Nov 20, 2018

Nola said:
FFS Blizzard just either needs to shutdown Diablo, end it out of its misery or fucking sell the IP. They no longer have the slightest clue on how to make an ARPG.

It'll be fun to read all the "How Social Justice and pandering ruined Blizzard" type articles in the next decade or so. Congrats to GGG, the new ARPG kings.

Penance · Nov 20, 2018

a_skeleton_05 · Nov 20, 2018

Kirun said:
It'll be fun to read all the "How Social Justice and pandering ruined Blizzard" type articles in the next decade or so. Congrats to GGG, the new ARPG kings.

SJW shit isn't Blizzard's problem. They've pretty much stayed away from the majority of it other than trying really damn hard to have a diverse hero pool in Overwatch.

Their problem is that the marketing boys are steering the ship and have been for the past few years, and they're doing so after pushing out the people that made Blizzard what it is.

Kyougou · Nov 20, 2018

I think when it comes to Diablo specifically, they just don't have anyone left that gets it.
Doesn't matter how much they say they love Diablo, I have a hard time believing they have anyone left that actually played Diablo 2 back in its time.
I'm sure they studied it when trying to make D3, but they sure half assed even that.

The people that knew Diablo are long gone.
I was actually worried about D4, knowing that it would be the first Diablo made from the ground up with consoles in mind there is no doubt in my mind that compromises would be made for the PC version rather than adjustments for the console like with D3, because at least D3 was PC first.

The more I play PoE the less I believe that Blizzard could ever create a Diablo that would not be just a smoother, prettier version of PoE with much, much less depth.

a_skeleton_03 · Nov 20, 2018

That kind of buff for this season is like the buffs when a game is leaving beta to be wiped and launched. Just silly overpowered because why not.

They desperately want number of players to increase significantly.

Mr Creed · Nov 20, 2018

Kyougou said:
The more I play PoE the less I believe that Blizzard could ever create a Diablo that would not be just a smoother, prettier version of PoE with much, much less depth.

I would probably play a prettier PoE that sacrificed some depth, but I doubt Blizzard could even manage to make that.

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