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Delly

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Why should a game people paid up to $100 for be put in competition with F2P titles like Marvel Heroes and PoE? Selling stash tabs and character slots is way over the line.
I don't really see it that way. Games like MH and PoE give you a shitty amount of quality of life services. A horrendous amount of stash tabs, having to buy any type of good looking armor, characters, etc.

Diablo has a fair amount of stash tabs, could I use more? Sure. Do I need more? Not at all. Its not the same in PoE or MH. I've never had to delete a character due to not having enough slots. I bought the CE so maybe that is why, but I have 6 Non-Seasonal SC characters, 5 non-seasonal HC chars, 2 seasonal. I still have 2 slots left. I could use one for that last HC slot and still have an extra.

Edit: Its doubtful, but its always a possibility they go free to play to contend in the market and reduce the amount of stash/character tabs those players receive.
 

Vorph

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I'd say PoE is pretty fairly priced even though I hate the game itself. MH is completely ridiculous in terms of what they charge for almost everything, with costumes being by far the worst offenders. If you spend $100 on either of them you'd end up with a hell of a lot more storage space than D3 has and still have plenty of currency left over to buy cosmetic shit.

Pretty much anyone who played vanilla and S1 seriously and didn't buy the CE had to delete characters. I had to salvage a lot of items in the process of taking everything out of the mailbox too. Some I would have anyway, but there was some overflow beyond that as well. Giving people only one extra tab with RoS, and talking about charging for them now is bullshit imo.
 

Vitality

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PoE and MH aren't even on the same level in regards to Cash Shop slime-balling. PoE does it right. MH does it wrong.

Poe starts you out with free stash tabs, D3 doesn't.
 

Delly

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That is true, I wasn't comparing them. The fact is you start off with a shitty amount of stash tabs in both of those games and if you plan to play seriously you'd have to buy more. Unfortunately, everything in MH is expensive while PoE is just smart.

Stash in D3 is borderline too small, but works if you're focusing on only 1-2 characters. I am a pretty bad hoarder in ARPGs and I haven't had any big issues. Just started a monk on season 2 along side my barb, 320+ paragon lvls in and my stash is pretty good so far. If you're playing HC then maybe I see your complaints, because you have to have a second set of gear laying around for any set you may be wanting to use.
 

Pyros

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Well yeah you have to buy some, but it costs like 15bucks in PoE to have twice more usable stash space(it's probably more than that in size, but you hoard a lot more shit in PoE, fucking skillgems and 150types of currency) and you have more char slots too without buying any(24 base, versus I think it's 10 in D3?). Now MH, that's another story, stash tabs are premium shit, they never go on sale(or never did when I played) and they gave ONE for the one year aniversary remake whatever shit but otherwise it's expensive as hell and those stash tabs are small as fuck, making it a pain to keep all the random garbage you want to keep for other classes, and unlike poe or D3, you can't use another char to mule either since you only have "one char", or one inventory I guess. Still the game was pretty ok to play as almost free, I spent a bit of money on it but still less than D3+Expansion. PoE I think I spent 40bucks during beta to support, and I still have some left even though I bought way more stash tabs than I needed and some fiery weapon skin shit.

All in all though, I wouldn't be adverse to them selling this kind of shit, they did add a bunch more tabs. I would like for them to expand char slots a bit though if they do that, like to 15 or something, that'd be just fine for me.
 

Delly

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Doesn't look like it will happen, at least yet, on the US or EU servers so it doesn't matter. Just for the Asian countries that will probably not get so butthurt. I'll just be happy with the UI update and quality of life changes.
 

Sir Funk

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Bringing experience pots to the West would be a horrible idea, and I can't imagine they'd be allowed in seasons. Anything else I'm all for and would gladly welcome as non-essential fluff that would enhance the game because, ideally, increased revenue would lead to increased content.
 

Qhue

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Well they did sell the idea of Diablo 3 to their shareholders with the RMAH providing a steady source of income. They clearly want some sort of regular cash I fusion outside of traditional expansions
 

Vorph

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Took me 23 crafts to roll a good ancient arcane barb crossbow. If you all wanted an idea of the RNG luck it takes to get a decent ancient roll.
Pretty sure 23 is extremely lucky to not only get an ancient weapon but get a good one. I've done ~63 crafts of the Born's Sword and gotten one ancient so far. Complete shit too, damage range rolled almost the minimum possible and it didn't come with CDR so there was nothing I could do with it. The worst part is the only reason I've stopped crafting them is because I am now constantly out of arcane dust. Farming that shit is a pain right in the ass.

Armor is a bit more reasonable to ancient than weapons, as long as you're somewhat flexible about what stats you're willing to accept.
 

Brikker

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Anyone with crusader experience give me some critique?Heavenfaced - Community - Diablo III

Mostly I'm trying to figure out what I should be gambling for. I've been doing Gloves for a bit to try and get better Akkhan's (str/crit/cdr). The weapon I'm using is the best I've managed to find and I haven't found shit for jewelry. I really need to get rid of the asstastic RoRG (that I don't even need)...

Wish a good BoP would drop so I could move up from T3/T4 =/
 

The Master

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It is a shame that there are so many builds that are gear dependent and getting the specific gear you need is so unlikely. There are multiple Monk builds I'd like to try but getting the pieces for just one build is a pretty daunting task.
 

Deathwing

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Anyone with crusader experience give me some critique?Heavenfaced - Community - Diablo III

Mostly I'm trying to figure out what I should be gambling for. I've been doing Gloves for a bit to try and get better Akkhan's (str/crit/cdr). The weapon I'm using is the best I've managed to find and I haven't found shit for jewelry. I really need to get rid of the asstastic RoRG (that I don't even need)...

Wish a good BoP would drop so I could move up from T3/T4 =/
Get a better RoRG, gamble a Leoric's. I'd suggest a different build until you get a BoP. Shield tossing if you got the shield, or stutter-stepping hammers otherwise(FoTF works really well with this build).
 

Pyros

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Good thing I didn't bother trying to get a Gem of Ease before leveling my DH, it takes forever to farm these stupid legendary gems, sure it's one per Grift, but if I don't want to continually have to refarm Grift keys I need to wait for 4:30 on the timer and shit takes fucking forever. I've been mixing bounties inbetween but that still takes forever. And obviously I've gotten like 10gems now and still no gem of ease. At least I got a few I can use.

There's no level reqs btw on legendary gems? Like I got the life regen one, it pretty much makes you immortal for the first 60 levels doesn't it? 10k health per second at rank1 is pretty crazy.
 

Mr Creed

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Well they did sell the idea of Diablo 3 to their shareholders with the RMAH providing a steady source of income. They clearly want some sort of regular cash I fusion outside of traditional expansions
The thing is, they want regular cash infusions without doing any work for it. I would happily buy a DLC with a new class, new tileset and monsters and a dozen new legendaries and sets (how to integrate the drop chances etc might be an issue, /shrug it's their job). But those things dont come into existance through wishful thinking. Look at what PoE can do, you cant tell me Blizzard couldnt match that.
 

Brikker

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Get a better RoRG, gamble a Leoric's. I'd suggest a different build until you get a BoP. Shield tossing if you got the shield, or stutter-stepping hammers otherwise(FoTF works really well with this build).
I was Fire Hammers before finding Wrath Shield and have tried Shield with the Jekan; both killed slower than current setup (especially Blessed Shield)...
 

Brikker

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Good thing I didn't bother trying to get a Gem of Ease before leveling my DH, it takes forever to farm these stupid legendary gems, sure it's one per Grift, but if I don't want to continually have to refarm Grift keys I need to wait for 4:30 on the timer and shit takes fucking forever. I've been mixing bounties inbetween but that still takes forever. And obviously I've gotten like 10gems now and still no gem of ease. At least I got a few I can use.

There's no level reqs btw on legendary gems? Like I got the life regen one, it pretty much makes you immortal for the first 60 levels doesn't it? 10k health per second at rank1 is pretty crazy.
Not sure if there are Reqs on the other legendary gems (I think there are, though). Either way, you won't find socketed jewelry for awhile, right?
 

Delly

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Good thing I didn't bother trying to get a Gem of Ease before leveling my DH, it takes forever to farm these stupid legendary gems, sure it's one per Grift, but if I don't want to continually have to refarm Grift keys I need to wait for 4:30 on the timer and shit takes fucking forever. I've been mixing bounties inbetween but that still takes forever. And obviously I've gotten like 10gems now and still no gem of ease. At least I got a few I can use.

There's no level reqs btw on legendary gems? Like I got the life regen one, it pretty much makes you immortal for the first 60 levels doesn't it? 10k health per second at rank1 is pretty crazy.
Wait what? Farming Grifts to level gems to at least 25 is like half the game. There are only 17 gems I believe, so you'd have to do 17 Grifts to collect the gems at the very least. If you think that is a grind than just wait for the rest of the game!

Two buddies farmed that gem and got it to 25, started a T6 lvl one game and hit mid 40s in 2 minutes. The new powerleveling!