Diablo 3 - Reaper of Souls

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Delly

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Nope, the build on my Barb is pretty much copy and pasted from all the other Raekor builds you see around the net. I would link my weapons but last time I played him I was clearing T6 in a group so I have the gay two handed set weapon on because I found mixing Raekors and Immortal Kings helped me at least do something when I had a Demon Hunter or Wizard in the party.
Well once you get vile wards, strongarm, full Raekor, etc you could run any weapon and do okay. I do 180m-280m crits on average without WotB. No way 2 1H could do that, but then again FC is so strong unless you're doing 35+ GRs you could use any weapon and feel strong.

Whats sad is my crits are low because I took a hit on CHD recently. I've seen 350-400m crits when my ring/ammy were rockin lots of CHD.
 

Therage

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So what kind of Build should I be focusing for a DH? (Havent played on pc since xpac came out) I'm playing hardcore season if that matters. Still stacking fire damage and cluster arrow?
 

Pyros

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Cluster/Sentry or Multishot/Sentry seems to be the DH build, cluster being preferred for groups and for very high GR, while multishot clears faster solo when under say GR30. Build with like companion, vault/smokescreen(smoke might be better for HC though you need a decent amount of disc), preparation with hatred rune and a builder which tends to be evasive fire with the hatred rune since it's 7 per shot, or if you have krider elemental arrow. Can switch prepa for other stuff. It's really not much different than the old build. Then you want to get 5pc marauder+ring of grandeur, the sentry quiver, an ancient legendary xbow(any of them really with decent rolls), SoJ/Unity for other ring and then whatever for the rest, I think Blackthorne for amulet+belt is pretty nice. For element, fire is better in groups but cold seem to be used when soloing more I believe, and you can also go physical if you want, they're all fairly decent.
 

The Master

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So some information has been data mined from the 2.2 PTR. There is going to be a unique ring that causes your spirit allies to cast Cyclone Strike, Exploding Palm, Lashing Tail Kick, Seven-Sided Strike, and Wave of Light when you do. Considering WoL builds are already ridiculous, having two spirit allies (crudest boots) casting them as well could triple your damage.
 

Pyros

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They say in the disclaimer that most bonuses(or bonii whatever) are put on rings to test them initially so shouldn't expect them to actually be ring. There's another bonus for mystic ally(increase passive+increase mantra) so it might be part of a set.

The WD ones look like the Zuni rework, mana spenders increase pet damage on targets, mana spenders create a sycophant on cast and gargantuan becomes 3 gargantuans instead. Sounds pretty alright.

They're also doing a new way to buff certain skills with Meteor and Shield Bash where it does more damage if you hit 3 or less targets, to make them more viable as boss killers I guess, and in the case of Bash it also refunds half its cost.
 

The Master

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They say in the disclaimer that most bonuses(or bonii whatever) are put on rings to test them initially so shouldn't expect them to actually be ring. There's another bonus for mystic ally(increase passive+increase mantra) so it might be part of a set.

The WD ones look like the Zuni rework, mana spenders increase pet damage on targets, mana spenders create a sycophant on cast and gargantuan becomes 3 gargantuans instead. Sounds pretty alright.

They're also doing a new way to buff certain skills with Meteor and Shield Bash where it does more damage if you hit 3 or less targets, to make them more viable as boss killers I guess, and in the case of Bash it also refunds half its cost.
That makes more sense, I guess the speculation is it might be the new 6pc Inna's bonus.

NDE is getting a nice buff. Also makes you immune to damage/CC for 2 seconds.
 

Deathwing

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It's likely a lone item. Notice the new barb WW & Rend(hi, we learned nothing from Rolands!) set is 1 - 2 - 3, right in a row. Which has me worried for the Raekor set. 25 and 26 are current 5 and 2 piece Raekor, which either means the datamining is messed up(likely), they made the "Furious Charge gets all runes" bonus a 2 piece(nope, way too powerful), or they fucked up the set into unplayability(about as likely as the first option).

Anyway, back to mystic allies casting spenders...not a problem. I guarantee that they won't get the SWK damage bonus. It will be like marauder sentries firing spenders: nice, but not really that great. I could see them overwriting your EP chain as annoying.


On that note, these seem rife for abuse:

ItemPassive_Unique_919_x1 - Your skill cooldowns are reduced by [VALUE] seconds.
ItemPassive_Unique_920_x1 - Reduce the remaining cooldown of one of your skills by [VALUE] seconds each time you spend resource.

Especially when combined with what looks like all-rune perma-WoTB.
 

Pyros

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Fuck, obviously, looking for marauder gloves, I get an ancient Tasker and Theo. I guess at least it didn't roll too horrible so I can reroll dex to int for my WD.
 

Delly

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Got my first Furnace ever. Not ancient but I don't even care. Gonna test to see if its better.
 

Deathwing

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More of 2.2 PTR has been datamined.

PTR Patch 2.2 Datamined! - News - Diablo Fans


Raiment looks a bit hamfisted. 4 and 6 piece begs generator-less, which is obviously at odds with the 2 piece. Though, not sure if DS at 50 spirit is sustainable given how quick it is. Also not sure if it's going to get the same treatment as Furious Charge. FC's area is really wide, much wider than someone who's very used to DS.

A lot of these look like "slap 500% - 800% on some skills".

I really like the IK changes. Bit sad the "increase fury generation by 2" is gone because there were some creative combinations with that. But perma CoTA at 2 and likely perma WoTB at 6 lends itself much more interesting combinations.
 

Tenks

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Looks like WW/Rend build is back folks. Time to party likes its vanilla.

I *assume* even wit the changes to Nats it won't compete with Marauder
 

Deathwing

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Looks like WW/Rend build is back folks. Time to party likes its vanilla.

I *assume* even wit the changes to Nats it won't compete with Marauder
I'd be careful with that first assumption. Specifically, I doubt that set will work in grift progression. It's all damage, just like the Roland's they are kinda sorta fixing this upcoming patch. You might be able to mix with 2 piece IK and CoTA damage reduction rune, but I don't think even that would be enough.
 

Vorph

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I was thinking of the possibilities for monk with the new Inna's set bonuses, but it seems you have to give up something to make it work. You can have Inna's 6pc, SWK 4pc, and Crudest Boots, but you have to equip the Inna's daibo to do it. As strong as the sets sound, I don't think there's anything that could make even an ancient set daibo competitive with [non-ancient] Torch or Furnace. So you're going to have to give up either the SWK 4pc by using Inna's gloves, or Crudest Boots by using Inna's instead.

It also looks like two more pieces (chest/pants) have been added to the SWK set, so more changes may happen there before 2.2 is released anyway.
 

Delly

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The only reason the WW/rend set looks okay is because WW is still really good now with nothing to help it. In 2.2 it will be an already good WW+rend+set. I already see a physical WW build being amazing. Cota with Ancients Fury to have unlimited Fury (I did this last season before I got my FC build). Basically apply rend, WW/WotB forever with endless Ancients giving you fury. Rend healing you a bit. Probably battle rage - bloodshed because its physical and either ignore pain or warcry.

I'm already excited just talking about it.
 

Tenks

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Delly you're invited to my theorycraft parties. Deathwing is off the list. He's a downer.
 

Needless

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Barb is gonna be so fun once this patch hits, perma cota with 2p alone is pretty $$
Can't wait!