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Diablo 4 / IV / IIII / Fore / Cope / Seethe
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Guest, it's time once again for the massively important and exciting FoH Asshat Tournament!
Go here and give us your nominations!Who's been the biggest Asshat in the last year? Give us your worst ones!
Chapell
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I don't pay for Blizzard product, i got them for free, but thanks for your comment bitch.
Chris
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It's going to be literally impossible for Blizzard to do that.
Any idea has got to go through multiple layers of management and woke councils, then go through multiple redesigns before being scrapped.
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Fyff
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The overarching mechanic is one of the multitude of problems with the PoE bloat. The game is basically unplayable unless you have followed it from the beginning. I would rather play every single season of d3 then play a single season of PoE. The community is trash and the game is trash.
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Wrong. There is bloat in the game that can get trimmed, but the mechanics, and especially seasonal mechanics and carry through are the exact reason PoE is still relevant in 2022. The game is absolutely playable as a newcomer, what you mean to say is a new player will have to actually use their brain for 5 minutes to read up on the game, instead of just face rolling keyboard like in D3 because of the level of shallowness. Community is trash because they won't make the game easier for you? mm hmmm.
The only way D4 thrives is to borrow Poe's strategy on managing seasons and mechanics.
Seananigans
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The game is free to play once you've bought it, and if you also purchase the season pass, you get free rewards. What the fuck is so hard to understand about our wonderful design? DON'T YOU ALL HAVE PHONES?
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Seananigans
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It's a shame PoE's engine is trash and Blizz/Diablo engines are always gold. It's like the universe's sick joke.
Daidraco
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The always online, shared world, is only an illusion of social aspect. They want that shit they can load up the MTX store with cosmetics and people can flex on each other with what they bought. Jokes on them though - I rarely ever grouped in any Diablo game and I wont think twice about downloading the always offline ripped version with all the MTX's unlocked.
The sheer audacity of them to be talking about MTX's when they're going to charge a box price for the game is insane.
The sheer audacity of them to be talking about MTX's when they're going to charge a box price for the game is insane.
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jayrebb
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While staying completely radio silent on Immortal through launch and no official statement about concerns with the current system.
Yeah, fuck these guys.
Chris
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The problem is the currency, not the mechanics.
Most are just interestings ways to spawn monsters to fight, often just clicking or walking into something.
But then at the end you have obscure currency to collect for ??? or crafting items for a system that's too complex for even people like me that played since the first beta.
There are only a handful of big former league mechanics which typically only show up in endgame.
So yes they can do better, but it's not that bad.
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Fyff
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It's not 5 minutes of reading though. It's fucking hours of research on shit. As I have said before in this thread, I asked once in the PoE help section of their forums for a write up on the different past mechanics and which are worthwhile or even an explanation (since the in-game explanation is retarded) and the only answer was "go search YouTube".
If there is a 5 minute quick start guide to relevant content and skipable content in PoE please feel free to post it.
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Don't take this personally. This is probably somewhat true for all long-running games with complex and stacked systems, but where the current meta (read: FotM) is always shifting due to patches and balancing.
No one past the "valley of despair" on the Dunning-Kruger curve wants to post what they really think, because then they open themselves up for criticism and autistic "akchually..." posts--mostly from peak stupid. Basically, everyone is afraid of being outed as a "noob" or "2004er". You can somewhat observe the same behavior in the DoTA2 or LoL community.
TJT
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Absolutely. Anyone can play and enjoy POE at some level.
If your goal is to kill Uber elder you need to play a lot differently. People with experience think that if you don't get that fear in a league it's a waste of time and maybe it is to them.
TJT
Mr. Poopybutthole
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Is your goal to have fun playing an ARPG while watching Netflix or to get Uber Elder down?
Fyff
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You know what's not fun? Trying to play a game with no fucking idea what's going on. Like you roll in to chapter two and there are some random animals you capture and do something with? Then you kill some random dudes and this wierd matrix of random dudes pops up.
And on and on and on. The whole game continues like this and not knowing what all this shit is and what it does is frustrating. Not knowing which stuff is important and which stuff is ignorable is annoying. The game is packed full of shit systems.
So again, is the claim that you can read 5 minutes worth of stuff and know a real claim or is PoE a bloated piece of junk that has an untenable number of systems? Should we use PoE as an example of what not to do in a game?
And on and on and on. The whole game continues like this and not knowing what all this shit is and what it does is frustrating. Not knowing which stuff is important and which stuff is ignorable is annoying. The game is packed full of shit systems.
So again, is the claim that you can read 5 minutes worth of stuff and know a real claim or is PoE a bloated piece of junk that has an untenable number of systems? Should we use PoE as an example of what not to do in a game?
Chris
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The only relevant content is Labyrinth and current league.
Labyrinth because it's how you select your class specialisations, current league because it's in every zone.
Labyrinth are the Trials you find every now and again, the entrance is located in the Act 3 Town and tells you which you missed. You do it 4 times with increasing difficulty throughout the game.
Otherwise pick up currency you find, with Chaos and Exalted Orbs being what you'll be using for trade. With the rest don't bother with crafting, just trade them for Chaos Orbs.
You may also want to pick up items with 3+ linked gem slots which have one of each colour. They give Chromatic Orbs which change gem slot colours, that'll be the only crafting you really need to do.
Any other nonsense you find, treat is at an opportunity to kill monsters and get loot.
Once you get to maps, focus on ones you haven't done before. Make sure that you use currency to upgrade white maps to magic quality, yellow maps to rare quality (Alchemy Orbs) and red maps to corrupted quality (Vaal Orbs).
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