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How about calling it "gold"?That has entirely too much to do with POE's bloat and not the currency system itself. If there were only 3 or 4 currencies you wouldn't have that issue since the number of things you can do with them is similarly limited.
Honestly, Blizzard wouldn't even have to go that far. They could have ONE goddamn "currency" that dropped, call it Demon Blood or some shit, and just have varying costs of how much Demon Blood it took to modify certain items from a list at the crafting bench. If Demon Blood is a tradeable resource then you are now in a position where every kill has meaning towards a goal and not just "gee I hope this drops the one in a million/billion item with all the mods I'm looking for!"
This is the adult problem.I never understood why people bitch about preordering a game. Even if a game costs $70 - 100 to pre order and it sucks I don’t bitch any longer. If it can give me a minimum 30 hours of playtime I’m good. Last game I recall bitching about a game was Wolcen which was a piece of buggy shit. Hell the amount I sometimes spend money going out with friends buying rounds of drinks and food when I have to in a few hours costs me more. If it ever starts to bother me maybe I need a cheaper hobby.
How about calling it "gold"?
Dev Diary: Rethinking Gold as a CurrencyPath of Exile’s economy is the most important element of the game to us. It’s why we designed it to be played exclusively online. We examined the economies of other online RPGs and looked at how players interacted with each other in trade. In order to make gold a viable currency, the developers created many artificial sinks that do not have any real gameplay benefit. In some games, rather than using these built-in gold systems, players seem to prefer to barter item-for-item, inventing their own currencies and relative values. This development diary entry describes how we used these lessons to design the trade systems in Path of Exile.The Traditional Gold Economy Gold has several consequences in an action RPG setting:
In online RPGs where gold is too easy to obtain, we observed players trading certain items as currency and ignoring the underlying gold. Some examples are the “Globs of Ectoplasm” in Guild Wars and the “Stone of Jordan” and “High Rune” economies in Diablo II. We found that successful game pseudo-currencies have four characteristics:
We examined how a currency item system affects the previously mentioned consequences of a gold based economy:
Our implementation of this concept embraces it fully. While killing monsters in Path of Exile, you occasionally find currency items. There are currently over a dozen different types and this number will probably grow to 25 by release. It’s worth pointing out that these items are not for sale in our microtransaction store – they’re entirely in-game currency found and traded for by players. Our currency items meet the three criteria of good game barter currencies. They are homogeneous and handleable (you can stack them). They are useful (each performs a specific action on an item or a character) and they are substantially scarcer than gold. Some of them are relatively common – you’ll probably find at least one per half hour of playing. Others are rarer, taking potentially days of gameplay to find, if you’re lucky. A few are so valuable that casual players may never find them, but only hear of them in high-end trades. Each currency item performs a function that can help improve your character. Some examples from our current alpha version, in order of rarity, are:
So far, we’re very pleased with the results of this system. Because of the pseudorandom slot-machine-like nature of currency item drops, players get a rush from finding them. We keep hearing players excitedly showing off the valuable orbs they have found. This is more rewarding than slowly grinding up their gold value until it hits 100,000. Players seem very keen to trade their currency items with each other. Because they all have their own metrics for how much each effect is worth, it’s common to see quite complex barters occurring with several different types of currency items. Recently I was trying to upgrade my rare sword in Path of Exile. I had two Chaos Spheres available, which could reroll its mods randomly. While I was certain that I could improve the terrible mods that it had currently, I was apprehensive about potentially wasting my most powerful currency items. I asked around and found another tester who was happy to offer me a substantially better sword in exchange for those two Chaos Spheres. I knew that it’d take an extremely lucky roll to beat the mods on his sword, so I accepted the trade. What was in it for him? He really wanted to reroll his bow and already had a better sword than the one he traded to me. Some players immediately use all their currency items on the spot to improve their character. These players generally have quite powerful characters and items, but are always low on actual currency items to trade. They’re often seen trading powerful upgraded items for currency, in an attempt to reroll/upgrade other items and fuel their addiction. Other players prefer to save up all their currency items and rely on trading them for specific desired items. These risk-averse players often have several weak items on their character, but a powerful amount of disposable currency for purchasing great items when they crop up in trade. They can also perform substantial spot-rerolling if they really need something in a hurry. Because we’re not using gold like other games, we were able to re-evaluate each of the game mechanics commonly used as a gold sink. We found that almost without exception, they are all negative mechanics that impose a burden on the player and don’t increase enjoyment. We scrapped the concept of repairing items. Our flasks can be refilled so you don’t need to buy dozens of them each time you travel to town. We don’t tax your currency when you die. Rather than charging large gold fees to perform certain actions like rerolling an item, we offer it in the form of a currency item you can find over time or trade for. We haven’t had any players ask where the gold is. We honestly thought that people would be very uneasy with a gold-less game, but so far our testers have understood and enjoyed this system. We are still uncertain about whether it’s worth including something like gold coins as a very low-tier currency item to help ease players into the system. If we did, they’d be itemized (and stackable) so that it’s not practical to carry too many (and would generally be spent on low-end staple items to help the player in the first few acts). We’ll hopefully be able to make a decision soon after more playtesting. While talking about the game economy, it’s worth noting that we’re strongly opposed to any form of binding of items. Some games cite it as an effective item sink, but we believe that the inability to trade an item after use greatly hinders the economy. We want players to be able to trade for an extremely valuable item without taking a massive hit to their net worth by equipping it. In the near future we’ll update the Path of Exile site with more information about the functionality of currency items planned at release. |
Posted by Chris on Feb 7, 2011, 6:00:00 PM Grinding Gear Games |
If this was all accepted by the forum than we would never discuss games, only the horrible politics you all have.I don't understand what all the crying is about, honestly. If you don't want to play the game, ever, then don't buy it. If you don't want to pre-order it then don't pre-order it. If you don't want to buy it until 6 months after release so you can read 800000 reviews on exactly how shitty it is or not, then wait 6 months.
When people point out companies (not just game companies either, lol) have been doing the same shit for decades the whiners go off on random tangents to try and act like this is some special affront or unique situation.
If this was all accepted by the forum than we would never discuss games, only the horrible politics you all have.