DOTA 2
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I'm trying to pick up Dota 2 after playing LoL for the last year. I would like to have similar control schemes between the two games. So why the fuck can't I bind shift-q/w/e/r, etc. for quick cast? WTF Gaben.
[H] Mousesports - Black^
iG - Faith
Zenith - iceiceice
Zenith - xfreedom
LGD - xiao8
LGD - DD
Rattlesnake - Luo
Orange - xtinct
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navi - xboct
navi - puppey
zenith - yameteh
zenith - ice
MUFC -fzfz
MUFC - TFG
MUFC - dabeliuteef
also looking for a tiny or riki steam card
iG - Faith
Zenith - iceiceice
Zenith - xfreedom
LGD - xiao8
LGD - DD
Rattlesnake - Luo
Orange - xtinct
[w]
navi - xboct
navi - puppey
zenith - yameteh
zenith - ice
MUFC -fzfz
MUFC - TFG
MUFC - dabeliuteef
also looking for a tiny or riki steam card
Have some cards for trade, really need MAo, Hu, and Banana for Tongfu. Will take any others on a need basis. Cards I have are: Faith from IG, Fata and Synderen from Mouz, Illidan from VP, Luo from Rattlesnake, Silent from Quantic, and Ice and xFreedom from Zenith. Pm me here or just add me on steam.
MUFC-Ling also now.
MUFC-Ling also now.
After Mouz wiped the floor with Alliance I honestly thought they would beat Navi. That wasn't even close.
Also, Alliance just picked Timbersaw vs EG in game 3 of their league match
Also, Alliance just picked Timbersaw vs EG in game 3 of their league match
Crone
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Is it just a weekend thing? What the hell is up with having a match pop up, and 9/10 are ready, but not the 10th dude? I've never had this much trouble as I've had the last couple days. I'm kicked back to queue 6+ times before I finally find a game. Shit is stupid.
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Shit's pretty random, I've had it happen like 5times in a row but I've also not had it happen in forever so yeah.
As for Timbersaw not sure, I guess people pick him atm cause he always wins mid kinda like OD. Reactive armor is stupidly strong in 1vs1 and the aoe saw thing even without a tree does very good damage. I don't quite like it though, unless the game is already going your way he doesn't seem to do all that much and his main weakness is he's fairly useless at the most important parts of the game, breaking/defending the bases and roshan fights. He does decent dmg without trees but a lot less than he could and chakram is awful at counterpushing in my opinion, sure it kills stuff but it takes way too long and you generally want to drop the creeps before they reach your base tower, not 5secs after they did.
I also kinda dislike item choices, if you're mid, get a bottle and arcane and don't spend all your time fighting in the woods, you don't really need the regen on a bloodstone, getting a sheepstick or a shiva would be a lot better. Even Atos or Force Staff would end up being more useful.
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I haven't been playing many games this year (at all, and in fact I had Steam uninstalled for about 5 months.) So I was getting bored a couple of nights ago, looked at Steam stats, saw 300k+ people were playing this, so I decided to give it a try. I've been reading about these types of games for years, but I'd never played one before. Obviously this is ancient news to everyone here, but from the perspective of a new player, I see a lot of fun can be had from so many different ways to do things, combinations of players, items, etcetera...pretty cool!
Quite daunting at first, but I've been sticking to a guide on playing easier heroes, and I've done about 5 games so far. I tried out Riki last night...JFC. I'm sure (I assume) he's completely easy to counter against skilled players, but in my beginner player bracket, not even knowing shit about this game, I went 15 and 0 (for kills) last night, having been like 2 kills and 6 or 7 deaths in previous games. New players just don't know how to handle that guy, apparently. I actually felt bad about it because I was completely dominating two players who kept trying to advance, and I knew it had nothing to do with any skill I had. We ended up winning that game, naturally. I don't want to get stuck on that dude though, so I'm going to keep on trying to pick a different hero every game. Think I've tried skeleton king, timbersaw, drow ranger, and, uh...something else...timbersaw chakram was kind of fun after getting that 200 percent mana regen item.
Quite daunting at first, but I've been sticking to a guide on playing easier heroes, and I've done about 5 games so far. I tried out Riki last night...JFC. I'm sure (I assume) he's completely easy to counter against skilled players, but in my beginner player bracket, not even knowing shit about this game, I went 15 and 0 (for kills) last night, having been like 2 kills and 6 or 7 deaths in previous games. New players just don't know how to handle that guy, apparently. I actually felt bad about it because I was completely dominating two players who kept trying to advance, and I knew it had nothing to do with any skill I had. We ended up winning that game, naturally. I don't want to get stuck on that dude though, so I'm going to keep on trying to pick a different hero every game. Think I've tried skeleton king, timbersaw, drow ranger, and, uh...something else...timbersaw chakram was kind of fun after getting that 200 percent mana regen item.
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Apparently they kicked ComeWithMe out of the team so I wouldn't be surprised if Kaipi dies fairly soonish, unless they had a replacement lined up already.
On stealth heroes and new players yeah it's commonly known that stealth heroes, on top of being favorites in lower tiers, are also insanely strong. Riki is probably the strongest cause permanent invis and he can 1vs1 most heroes even at higher tiers with cloud so great hero to pick off people solo who aren't paying attention, which is everyone in lower tier. Clinkz is also good but quite a bit harder to play right imo, Bounty Hunter is probably the best invis hero overall because he's relevant at all skill levels and provides a lot of utility on top of the invis/assassin gameplay. Also he counters invis heroes(his ultimate makes invis heroes visible for a long period of time), so that's like win win ^^.
Other heroes that people are pretty shitty at countering in lower tiers are gankers that don't have a stun. At high tier, all you have to do is TP out and you can generally make it out alive, but at low tier people don't buy TPs. Bloodseeker(also semi counter invis), Slark(partly invis) or Viper are good examples.
What is funny is since no one buys detection, if you do buy detection, most invis heroes become non factors cause they'll keep dying from not being used to being seen. Like you drop sentries when you're pushing and you can bet the enemy riki is standing right in the middle of your team waiting for an occasion to attack, instead of being hidden out of line of sight like people who expect detection would be.
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First time I long laned as Weaver and the enemy support bought 6 dust in the first 5 min of the game... I proceeded to go 1-9. Simply because I was just *NOT* used to seeing supports counter invis properly. I was mad, but it was just dumb play and not paying attention to items on the heroes I was facing. So yah, if you support properly, invis heroes go from awesome to garbage really fast.
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Not a big fan of dusts in general, I almost always buy sentries instead cause they double as dewarding and you can drop them in anticipation of an invis hero running into your team, which is important for pushes, plus they last a while in a lane so it makes it hard for an invis hero to farm it. Some heroes are better countered by dusts however. I don't feel Weaver is one, cause he can remove dust with Time Lapse and since the cd is like 50secs then you're fucked. Also buy a gem if I have the money, but that's not often.
As I said though, a hero like Bounty Hunter doesn't mind so much, he's still insanely useful even with detection. Even Weaver is if he's farmed correctly, you just play like a normal hero and not an invis hero, you still get a mini haste 80% of the time even if you're not invis. Riki is also annoying because you can't detect the whole map, so unless you random sentry+obs and see him walk past it, it's very hard to know where he is which forces your team to always move with 2+people, which limits your farming/splitpushing a lot. That's the strength of invis heroes, even properly countered, they still force the enemy supports to waste a lot of gold and because there is no guarantee your counters are placed in the right place, you still cannot afford to have a guy solo farming a lane and TPing based on movement toward him.
It's just in lower tiers where people aren't used to detection, they think invisibility = invincibility, and yep, it's not ^^.