Pyros
<Silver Donator>
I don't think it's jungling not working and more early game fighting being a lot more important now so you need strong heroes to fight in lanes and shit, due to kill xp/gold changes, especially with the ability to quickly TP to a lane to help, which junglers tend to suck at(low on mana to sustain jungling or shitty ass neutrals that move slowly across the map). Jungling is really greedy also in this meta, pushing early towers is also not as valuable as it used to(so chen/enchantress/enigma early pushes are so so) and they make it hard to stack for your cores since they need to use the jungle themselves especially if some camps are warded/there's a stupid fucking bounty hunter in the game(who's also making your jungling a lot shittier by just hanging around you). And then I guess the good jungling heroes aren't that great in this meta, or when they are(dark seer/doom), they're better off in lanes anyway.My pal and I were talking about how jungle ing usually doesn't work out in this patch. Was there a nerf?
Fuck alliance.
Big game this morning, finally going to get a litmus test for evil genius
On the other question, Nyx and Lion are picked sometimes, rarely. Lion's early game is considered too weak to be a very consistent pick and Nyx I think it's more when people want to counter certain int heavy compositions and can't get a better offlane. Not particularily with Dark Seer though, it happens I'm sure but it's not really high priority, there's a lot of aoe stuns you can use to do the same thing, including top tier picks like Lina, Tusk, Rubick, Witch Doctor, Winter Wyvern etc.