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Chukzombi

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Many of these women are accusing him of using roofies. That would be covered by any definition of rape. These aren't accusations like Lena Dunham's. If what the women said is true, Cosby is a serial rapist by any definition.
there is no evidence they were roofied as they never reported any crime at the time so they dunno what they may or may not have ingested.
 

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They(courts, feminist mainly) literally did changethe definition of rape. Rape used to be when you used physical (you fists or your lroofie of choice) force to make a woman have sex with you. Now rape is if your drunk or where"pressured" into sex.

Tldr rape is being confused with regret.
I believe the definition of rape is "sex without consent". You're right in that "without consent" used to be accepted as meaning "by use of physical force", but that hasn't exclusively been the case for a while now. Just being drunk when someone has sex with you does not count as rape, not even today (at least legally, I'm not getting into what rules colleges enforce). Now, if someone has consumed enough alcohol to be severely cognitively impaired, then even if they agree to have sex ("actual" consent) it doesn't count as "legal" consent and that can still count as rape. So yeah, sometimes "Yes" means "No". It's not arbitrary, it's not a free pass to use rape accusations after "buyer's remorse", it's not a matter of taking a victim at their word and it's not about allowing people to avoid taking responsibility for their decisions. That type of rape (like all rape cases) still requires sufficient evidence before someone can be found guilty. Here's alegal guideon how to prosecute such cases, in case you're curious.

TLDR: "Regret" has nothing to do with it. It's about consent.
 

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People should Spartacus this shit for the lulz.

"I was raped by Bill Cosby"....."NO, Iwas raped by Bill Cosby!"
 

Gavinmad

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if 13 women testified under oath, and gave credibile testemony under cross examination, one would think that it could create a situation where reasonable doubt is removed and a conviction could be possible.
Jesus fucking christ no. A thousand times no. I hope to hell you never get called for jury duty.
 

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I believe the definition of rape is "sex without consent". You're right in that "without consent" used to be accepted as meaning "by use of physical force", but that hasn't exclusively been the case for a while now. Just being drunk when someone has sex with you does not count as rape, not even today (at least legally, I'm not getting into what rules colleges enforce). Now, if someone has consumed enough alcohol to be severely cognitively impaired, then even if they agree to have sex ("actual" consent) it doesn't count as "legal" consent and that can still count as rape. So yeah, sometimes "Yes" means "No". It's not arbitrary, it's not a free pass to use rape accusations after "buyer's remorse", it's not a matter of taking a victim at their word and it's not about allowing people to avoid taking responsibility for their decisions. That type of rape (like all rape cases) still requires sufficient evidence before someone can be found guilty. Here's alegal guideon how to prosecute such cases, in case you're curious.

TLDR: "Regret" has nothing to do with it. It's about consent.
Lol "im not getting into what rules colleges enforce".

What about the Military?

James Taranto: A Strange Sort of Justice at West Point - WSJ
 

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I admit I do have quite a bit of trouble thinking of this guy as a rapist. However, for some of the women doing the accusing, it strikes me that they have very little motive to come out and say this now.
Maybe the women have no visible motive, but you gotta admit there are connected people that the coz pisses off with his personal responsibility message. Whether anything else comes out of this, it sure does mute that message. I'm not saying that's what's going on, but you were searching for a motive to lie, and there's one right there.
 

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Maybe the women have no visible motive, but you gotta admit there are connected people that the coz pisses off with his personal responsibility message. Whether anything else comes out of this, it sure does mute that message.
Wat.
 

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Are the women that were paid off in the 2006 (?) settlement now they same women screaming rape again?

Did their settlement deal somehow expire this year?

Lol "im not getting into what rules colleges enforce".

What about the Military?

James Taranto: A Strange Sort of Justice at West Point - WSJ
That's the problem if you're in your early 20s (ie poor) and not a nerd, if there's no sports game on TV, all you have to pass the time is getting drunk and sex.
 

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Ossoi probably still doesn't understand what racism is. How do you feel about the child rapists that flew under the radar over there due to being PC? Is that the end-game?.
Standard Rerolled response: "Hurrr Durr you're from the UK, <insert random news story to assert moral superiority> e.g How's it feel living under sharia law Hurr Durr britfag"

You guys are so predictable
 

Ossoi

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Isn't Ossoi from the UK? No Brit has the slightest bit of ground to stand on when it comes to accusing others of covering up rape.
yeah no shit? did you miss my comments on the first page about UK historical sex offences committed by TV personalities? Did you miss my wikipedia links detailing the crimes of Jimmy Savile?
 

Ossoi

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who redefined what rape is? it wasn't rerolled
The thing is the definition of rape has changed over the years. I'm not commenting on the validity of what constitute rape or not here, but today if you have girl over and you have few drinks and end up having sex, if she didn't explicitly say "yes I want to have sex with you" and regrets it the next day...you're a rapist. 10-30 years ago, that was just normal, back then rape involved the women explicitly saying no, and kinda physically pushing you away.
Well this new wave of feminism has done a fine job of making me not give a shit about rape.

Everything is rape nowadays,
And everything Astro said, but I really can't be bothered to click "view his posts" (he's on ignore) in order to quote.
 

Ossoi

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Not reading up on them, but based on what you said, I will assume they were both kiddy diddlers. Unless I missed something, that's a far cry from what The Coz is accused of. I think it's fair to say there's a different set of expectations for kids coming forward to report stuff and grown ass adults coming forward.
Yeah Savile was a paedophile, and stories continue that he was a necrophiliac too, which is why he did so much charity work for hospitals.

Regardless of the actual offences, the similarities are clear - TV personalities committing sex offences and getting away with it because a) the victims thought nobody would believe them b) their TV "characters"/persona were pretty far removed from sex offenders c) always rumours that they were sex offenders but never substantiated d) floodgates open and lots of victims come forward together
 

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This is an odd notion of mob justice that you seem to have Ossoi. There is literally no way that you, you personally within your own mind, can be refuted in your opinion that this man did what he's accused of. The accusation is enough. That's fucked up.

If he was being accused of anything besides a sex crime this standard would not apply. Substitute "physical assault" with "rape" and see how that opinion changes. And it will change.

Could it have happened? Maybe. His name is Bill Cosby, not Jesus Horatio Christ. You know what else could have happened? Absolutely nothing.
 

iannis

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It is possible that his entire problem with Lisa Bonet was not that she fucked a chicken for Prince, but that he didn't think of it first.

You can only know what you can know.
 

Chukzombi

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oh boy Ossoi is still clinging to the bullshit that he has me on ignore even though he continues to quote my posts on numerous occasions and i have called him on it. keep up the facade dude, somebody out there cares, im sure.

i dunno if they have this phrase in england, but over here we say "put up or shut up". it means if you have a claim, then you need to substantiate that claim or get the fuck out of here with that bullshit.
 

Ossoi

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This is an odd notion of mob justice that you seem to have Ossoi. There is literally no way that you, you personally within your own mind, can be refuted in your opinion that this man did what he's accused of. The accusation is enough. That's fucked up.

If he was being accused of anything besides a sex crime this standard would not apply. Substitute "physical assault" with "rape" and see how that opinion changes. And it will change.

Could it have happened? Maybe. His name is Bill Cosby, not Jesus Horatio Christ. You know what else could have happened? Absolutely nothing.
Have I said I think he's guilty? I have just pointed out the similarities between these accusations and a number of recent UK cases.
 

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The woman that was on Good Morning America or some similar show (heard a clip on a podcast) said that she went to Cosby's house, had a few drinks, then he gave her a pill which she apparently took willingly. Then she said she woke up naked with what she thought was semen on her mouth. The whole story sounds bizarre to me. For one thing, if someone just hands you a pill and says "take this" do you just take it and not ask what it is? Also, if she was in the house, having drinks and compliant enough to just take drugs without questioning it, it seems like he probably had a decent shot at getting some without the drugs. Also, they said that the drugs may have just been benedryll which seems like a terrible rape drug. Real roofies weren't available in the US until the mid 80s.