Dr. Mario's Retard Rehabilitation Program

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iannis

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Lets be cautiously optimistic.

This is about the 10th application of treatment, but this one MIGHT have finally worked.
 

Tanoomba

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Ugh. I had no intention of posting at all for a while, but I just cant. I just... can't.

First of all, the ProteinWorld thing. Here's a company who realized that by pissing a lot of people off, they would get a shit-ton of angry publicity which would in turn lead to a wave of support for them that would never have existed without the offended party. Where have we seen that tactic before? (Hint: It rhymes with Shmarkleesian and in that case, the offended party included many posters on this board.)

No, no! In THAT case, the anger was entirely JUSTIFIED, see? Not like for those OTHER guys! They're retards who don't know shit and are just looking for reasons to be angry! Why, look right here! Here's yet another Tweet from some asshole you would have never otherwise heard of saying something SUPER CRAZY! And these nutjobs aren't just terrible, they're DANGEROUS! We MUST stop them! But not with logic and reason... NO! That won't work on THEM! No, for THEM we have to stoop to their level and do what they do, ONLY WORSE! Only THEN will they understand the error of their ways!

Lithose in particular blows my mind. He can make a fantastic, interesting, reasonable and well-worded point, then follow that up with something completely absurd.

Lith: "I'm getting so tempted to go to these things, where a body cam...and find the most innocuous disagreements I can and claim harassment. This has gotten absurd to the point of just being ridiculous. If I were ten years younger and didn't have kids, I would totally go and do a stunt like that."

So, Lith's idea is to illustrate how susceptible this system is to abuse by ABUSING THE SYSTEM. What better way to show the dangers of what the other side can do than by doing it yourself? There's no way that could backfire, right?

And I AGREE that the "if someone feels they have been harassed it is harassment" policy is terrible. I agree! But when someone has to intentionally throw logic and reason out the window (INTENTIONALLY!) to support your point, how can you keep the title of "good guy" in your conflict?

Big Phoenix:"Thats how you defeat these types of movements. Much like religion they arent guided by rational or logical thinking, thus any logical arguments you try to persuade them with are utterly useless(no different than that bill nye v kevin ham debate). Instead you must become them, but turn it up to 11. Take every thing they stand for to the extreme, show that even the most diehard SJWs are really nothing more than shitlord misogynists for not accepting you."

Absolute garbage. If an SJW posted something like this you would be TEARING IT APART. Not ironically, SJWs DO post stuff like this. All the time. And get torn apart for it. But you're justified, right, Big P? They're radicalism is based on folly, yours is just and true.

Yes, it sucks when some nutjob SJW makes a big deal out of something. It sucks even more when the media seems to support that nutjob without even attempting to verify basic facts. But I promise you, I PROMISE YOU, you will not fix that shit by ALSO making big deals out of nothing. Ridiculing and shaming others is fun. Sucks that we evolved that way, there are certainly reasons why we have this trait, and the internet (and the anonymity it gave us) allowed us to indulge in it indefinitely. Just like having instant access to infinite porn has certainly led to a dramatic increase in the amount of fapping, infinite opportunity to act like an asshole and not be held accountable has led to a dramatic increase in the number of people acting like assholes.

Which is fine. It just rustles my jimmies to no end how often I see people trying not only to justify this behavior, but explain how it is a necessary tactic in this culture war, when in actuality all it does is give those you consider your opponents more power and influence (see: Proteinkeesian). To be fair, some people like Bisi and AngryGerbil have made it pretty clear they are in it for the lulz and don't believe themselves to be part of some righteous crusade. If they don't actually care that they are strengthening those they are ridiculing, then what possible problem could I have? But when I see the likes of Sebudai and Big Phoenix parading around on the highest of horses, believing they are actually part of the solution, you better believe I find it hard to stay silent. Guess that's why you needed someone to silence me, huh?

Yes, I've said this all before. Yes, it will all be ignored again in favor of insulting jabs that have nothing to do with what I just said. At least it's in the rickshaw, the only place I am allowed to speak freely. Hey, the futon still has my ass-print in it! ...Did someone move the credenza?
 

hodj

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Its a compulsion. We'll break him of it eventually or kill him in the attempt!
 

Tanoomba

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Just a friendly reminder: Punishments don't work if they are perceived to be delivered unjustly. They work even less when they ARE delivered unjustly.

Hey, wait a second... I don't have to check Hodj's posts for threats and harassment any more!

Kind of ironic to feel more "free" in the shaw, isn't it?
 

Tanoomba

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Space it out, champ. Let some other dudebros make sarcastic comments that neither address nor acknowledge anything I've actually said. That's the way you "win" these things, isn't it? I'm sure Dr. Mario has some delightful tidbits he's been saving up for just such an occasion. Let's see... "Something something treatment something butthurt something something change his name/avatar/signature..."

...Does that sound about right?
 

hodj

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Arbitrary (I believe) made a really good post in the Gamergate thread at some point about what you do Tanoomba, that I wish I could find (I just spent 20 minutes looking for it fyi, just to quote it to you, but failed to find it so whatever) where he explains that you wake up each day, go into a thread, and reset it to the same argument, and that you do this day after day after day for months on end.

I really think that's your issue. If you could break yourself of that habit, you'd solve a lot of your issues here.

But you're just so emotionally invested. Its okay to be invested to some degree in a debate. I'm certainly guilty of letting myself get more involved sometimes, both for comedic effect, and for serious, in debates on the internet over the years, than I should. We're all guilty of it sometimes.

But you just can't....let....it go. Its not even like "last word syndrome" like I have. Its like you simply obsess about whatever debate you are involved in, even when you're not at the PC. This wall length post you've made in here tonight clearly makes that point, and you even admit it in the post. "I had no intention of posting for awhile...but I just can't help myself". No. Help yourself. Help us help you, as they say in AA.

We can't fix your perception that you were unfairly shawed. For the record you did have 1 defender in the moderator pool this time, but overall, people seem to think it was justly warranted. You need to think about just staying out of threads like the Gamergate thread entirely, or until you can exercise some self control on the issues. And that's ME telling you that.

Take a couple weeks off. Come back. Be contrite. Learn the error of your ways. Show that rehab is working this time. We might be able to work out a slightly early release, on the condition you make a real solid effort to just let it go this time.

But I can't do that for you. I can't make you not ridiculously invested in trolling the shit out of that thread. You are NOT being silenced for your views, but rather for the way you express them. When you figure that out, I really think you'll make real, significant progress in your time here in rehab.

I do not want to send you to the shaw for a month at a stretch. I'm not as evil as you think I am. But you were about to lose your fucking mind again. Try to recognize that. You were doing okay for the first couple of days, but you just started slipping again right back into the old habits. Clearly Tuco is tired of it, or he could release you right now and there's nothing I could do about it. Understand that. Tuco, oh he of almost limitless patience and snark, wants you in here. If he wanted you banned, you'd be gone. If he wanted you released, you'd be out now as well.

So clearly he thinks you can be made into a better poster by having your butt slammed in the shaw. Why he chose me as the arbiter of that will I don't know, except that he thinks its funny to both tie my hands in every debate I get in here, as well as deal with you in one fell swoop, two birds as it were. But he did, and has, and if that doesn't make you think, I don't know what will.
 

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I love how in Tanoomba's reality, Protein World's strategy was 'to piss a large number of people off' rather than 'to support the already loyal customer base, and defend their lifestyle choices and values'.

This is demonstrably false. Protein World did not throw the first stone. They were not on the attack.
 

Tanoomba

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Really, Quaid? You don't think they realized there is growing anti-SJW sentiment and that this could be exploited for their benefit? All the new customers they got (including at least a couple of posters here) were not part of their "already loyal customer base". They were people who had never heard of the company before and at least in some cases didn't even have any need for their product. They were people who were happy to see a company not only take a stand against SJW bullshit, but do it with snark and attitude.

I'm not saying they don't believe in the stance they are taking. I'm just saying it's still a marketing campaign designed to target angry assholes looking to stick it to SJWs. It's exactly like how Anita managed to get a shit-ton of support from SJWs who don't know or care about games, but felt compelled to support her once they saw how the angry asshole crowd was treating her.

Again, internal bias means if you find yourself on either side (SJW or anti-SJW), you are already convinced you are in the right. You have plenty of examples of the "other side" spouting ignorant garbage (even if that comes from a vocal minority who we'd be better off ignoring completely). You can use the ignorance and anger displayed by the "other side" to justify your own ignorance and anger (see: Big P's post). And obviously, OBVIOUSLY, there's no need to consider whether the "other side" has made any reasonable points. You certainly shouldn't consider whether your own side has picked a few of the wrong battles to focus on. After all, doing so would be a sign of weakness, right? The other side will jump right on that shit and claim victory, so you have no choice but to NEVER GIVE AN INCH. Of course, now we're left with 2 "sides" trying to out-stupid each other and feeling entirely justified in doing so.
 

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A moon bat white knights blue hairs that attack a company and defends itself. Why am I not surprised?

The company sells workout supplements. Has a well defined and targeted customer base, tey they are in the wrong for being attacked by a group of people who would never even use their services? Of course they are SJWs are always right and their world view must be the one all of society caters to.
 

iannis

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Such special snowflakes.

Special means retarded.

But that's actually insulting to retarded people. They were born that way, and often do an impressive amount with what they have to overcome their adversity. These bluehairs pretend to adversities they do not possess, or they steal them, and then wallow in it for sympathy, some sense of self, and most importantly -- dollars.
 
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