Dr. Mario's Retard Rehabilitation Program

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Soygen

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They absolutely works as a meal replacement. Whether or not they are better than just eating normal food is probably debatable. If you're taking 40 grams of whey(rice, pea, whatever) protein, you're eating 40 grams of protein. It's not really a scam as far as that goes.
 

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Protein shakes as meal replacements don't work? Learn something new every day I guess. Tells you how much I lift...
Sure, of course they can replace meals. However, their many other claims sound like snake oil bullshit to me.

One containing "lean muscle" capsules, ones that will make your skin glow, one with "fat melter" capsules.


Whatever, if the SJW were attacking them for dubious supplement claims, that would be one thing. They aren't doing that though. They are saying "how dare you market stuff to thin people and shame us others!", which is bullshit.
 

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I dunno... Seems like an attractive product to me.

I find it difficult to find the extra hours for physical activity. Shakes mean i can use the saved time coming/grocery shopping to work out. Not to mention, if I were closely monitoring the details of my food intake, it would be real nice to have a little chart that tells me exactly what I'm putting into myself.

If they are selling it as a stand alone fat loss product though, fuck them.
 

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Quaid: "While I agree with most of what you say with regards to Sarkeesian, there is one fundamental difference between her and Protein World. One of them is selling a useful product based on solid research that fills a consumer need. The other is selling snake oil."

Again, what you're doing here is the "No, THIS side is justified because X" rationalization that BOTH "sides" make extensive use of. The way I see it, Sarkeesian wasn't selling anything at all. She was speaking her mind. The only reason she was able to turn that into a moneymaking enterprise is because of the people who tried to tear her down. It could even be argued (although I won't personally take that stance) that she would have been a fool NOT to profit off the efforts of her detractors.

Having said that, a hearty thanks for at least acknowledging that the anti-Sarkeesian crowd have, in fact, been inadvertently giving her power. It took months for somebody to acknowledge this, and it doesn't surprise me that you were the one to do it. You have my respect and my gratitude.

Bisi: "You're safe here, Moonbat."

If by "safe", you mean "allowed to speak freely without being silenced for made up reasons", then yes, I guess I am.
 

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Tanoomba;1078816 said:
"The way I see it, Sarkeesian wasn't selling anything at all."

You really believe this, don't you? Yeah, there isn't much conversation to be had if you don't think she is selling something(and quite well, at that).
 

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What's she selling, Soy? Who's buying? Are they being ripped off?
 

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"I feel like that is part of the "SJW problem"...the internet has allowed these people to create one giant circle jerk where they don't have to expose themselves to normal society, and thus never frankly have to thicken up, there's always another white knight or hug box a few clicks away where they'll be accepted for their craziness."

Hmmm... this is also a pretty good description of the "anti-SJW problem". Just replace "white knight or hug box" with "angry asshole or MRA" and it's entirely apt.
 

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What's she selling, Soy? Who's buying? Are they being ripped off?
I don't know, but she made almost half a million dollars last year. People don't get money without selling something. You sell your time, skills, product.

What reasons did you give her money?
 

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Say: "I don't know, but she made almost half a million dollars last year. People don't get money without selling something. You sell your time, skills, product.

What reasons did you give her money?"

Pretty weak, bro. You can't be a snake oil salesman without snake oil.

Let me help you out: She made the money she made because people saw how she was being treated by the anti-SJWs, got pissed and gave her money in support of her anti-harassment stance. That's pretty much it. She was paid to spite the anti-SJWs. She didn't need to sell a thing.

I personally never gave her a dime. I enjoyed her videos and that's as far as my involvement went. The anti-Sarkeesies have played a larger role in making her money than I have, since they indirectly are the reason most of the donations were made. Don't blame me for her current power and influence, you had more to do with it than I did.
 

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Tanoomba;1078840 said:
Let me help you out: She made the money she made because people saw how she was being treated by the anti-SJWs, got pissed and gave her money in support of her anti-harassment stance. That's pretty much it. She was paid to spite the anti-SJWs. She didn't need to sell a thing.

She makes claims about how her life was in danger and then had to cancel some appearance. Law enforcement then later confirmed there was zero credible threat. She was then propelled onto national tv and the donations rolled in. Sounds like she is selling some bullshit. You can keep trying to attribute her success to her detractors, but you're not convincing anyone here.
 

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Take the anti-SJWs out of the picture and she would not have made exponentially more than she asked for for her Tropes vs. Women series. This is a fact. It's why those who donated don't even care that she hasn't followed through on the videos she was supposed to make. Check the comments on her Kickstarter page and you will see people admitting to this openly. This was the spark that eventually led to the current inferno.

This made the anti-SJWs even angrier, and while I will certainly not claim that all anti-SJWs endorse or participate in harassment, it is undeniable that the amount of harassment she received from that point on exploded. It was, like, off the charts. That harassment is what led to the media providing their support and a podium for her to speak from, because how could they not?

Everything she is today, everything, is because of how passionately people speak out AGAINST her. You can keep trying to attribute her success to SJWs, but you're only convincing the anti-Sarkeesies who don't want to admit they helped make her a star.
 

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Yep, if we had all just shut up and let her and game journalists dictate to companies what gamers are and what types of games should be allowed to be made, the world would sure be a better place.

Oh wait...
 

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Everything she is today, everything, is because of how passionately people speak out AGAINST her. You can keep trying to attribute her success to SJWs, but you're only convincing the anti-Sarkeesies who don't want to admit they helped make her a star.
I'm not attributing her success to SJWs. I'm attributing it to the gaming journos, and then shortly thereafter, the main stream media doing literally no kind of investigating on the things they report(not just in this case, but in pretty much everything these days). Granted, many of those gaming journos are SJWs, but SJWs are just part of the problem here.

In what way do people bitching about her here influence the kind of money she is making?
 

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You know, Hodj really IS the Tanoomba of the "Ethics in the Sciences" thread. He also seems to have the more logical argument. I would hope that he would learn how easy it is to find yourself on the wrong side of a dog pile (even though you know what you're talking about) and reconsider his behavior re: his recent RRPing tendencies, but I know that's a pipe dream. HIS sticking to his principles in the face of everyone telling him he's wrong, making petty jabs, ignoring his points, straw manning him and making irrelevant comments is completely justified. I do the same thing and my "disgusting behavior" warrants silencing... and I'd better learn my lesson OR ELSE!

I guess the main difference between me and him is that, if I were made a mod, I wouldn't be petty enough to abuse my power just to shut him up. But then, I'm not from the South. Maybe they have a different idea of "human decency" there.
 

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She is the utter definition of a snake oil selling schyster. A Moon Bat is too far gone I'm afraid. Put it down, slowly and painfully.
 
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