Dragon Age: Why We Can't Have Nice Things

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If you folks think this thread is good, you should go into the off topic discord for Dragon Age.

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Man people today. I got the belt, the wooden spoon, things thrown at me, and the back of the hand. My Dad preferred the back of the hand as he had gigantic meathook hands. This was the experience of everyone born before 1995 as far as I can tell.

Kids do not understand simple conversations in the same way they ask you when 20 minutes is over 50 times in the space of 5 minutes.
 
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Well, to be fair - we did grow older seeing an entire generation of people pat their kids on the back for a participation trophy. Pretty sure its the people in their 30's to 50's, my generation roughly. I cant imagine they were disciplined anywhere near the capacity that we were - and like we've always said - "it shows."
 
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No it's from giant conglomerate pension plans.

Blackrock/Vanguard manage giant state and federal retirement 401k pots of money. Their job is to reinvest that money safely. But instead of going for higher ROI they choose to force companies that they buy stock in to support these retarded DEI initiatives.

It's one big circle jerk.
And where does that money come from, chief?

Too Big to Fail ring any bells?

And when they screw up, and they lose enough money, they get bailed out.

Where might THAT money come from?

Where did it come from when it happened before?

Make no mistake, we pay for it ALL.

The reason they can afford to BE so cavalier with the investment money is they know the goy will make good.
 
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And where does that money come from, chief?

Too Big to Fail ring any bells?

And when they screw up, and they lose enough money, they get bailed out.

Where might THAT money come from?

Where did it come from when it happened before?

Make no mistake, we pay for it ALL.

The reason they can afford to BE so cavalier with the investment money is they know the goy will make good.

It's not public money. It's private equity. The problem with it is the mismanagement.
 
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You can look at the steam reviews and it lists how many products they own on their account. I didn’t go through all of them obviously but there are a ton of zero other products owned per positive review. As a game developer / QA you also have access to the game via Steam way before the game launches. I noticed over 1k reviews pop up within the first couple hours of release that had way over the amount of slotted play hours possible.

On PS5 and Series X, the game had over 500 five stars two weeks before the game even launched. Because employees also have access there as well. (We see this all the time so it isn’t anything new. )

We are also seeing the same style of review.

1) “I’ve been a DA fan for 10 years…. “ or “I have this many hours played…”.

2) “BioWare return to form”

3) “It isn’t Dragon age but a great RPG”

And probably the worst given its content manipulation… “Made for kids” straight out of the Lucas Jar Jar playbook excuse. Which is hilarious given the largest target gaming market right now is 30-39. I also see what is happening in our education system and indoctrination there with this mentally ill garbage so that it doesn’t surprise me the alphabet crowd would say that.

It really isn’t a conspiracy theory. We’ve known about it for years.
Yeah, manipulated user scores are nothing new, and not just for games, but movies and TV shows as well. With gaming being such a massive market now, there is zero chance that the major players aren't paying for manipulated scores on top of the braindead imbeciles contributing. "Return to form" is the biggest dead giveaway that would have me question the intellect of anyone who tried to claim otherwise when it is objectively worse across every conceivable metric than anything Bioware has ever made. You cannot have a "return to form" when the studio was already a hollowed out husk now filled with talentless theater school dropouts and tumblr fanfic writers with extra chromosomes.

There's a reason why the mythical modern audience is not just a meme, but an economic truth, or else we wouldn't see droves of Disney failures that are far less on the nose than Faggon Age.

The major difference between it and games like Concord, Dustborn, or that recent shit game that was a freebie is how this time it was attached to a known IP from a developer that apparently the average consumer, a.k.a. dumbfucks, haven't quite grasped hasn't been relevant or composed of a fraction of what made it renown in the first place for over a decade. That's all well and good until said average dumbfucks actually start the game and are greeted with digital troons demanding that their imaginary pronouns be respected while lecturing them on why they should be referred to in the plural. And that's the entire game, an infantile, digital woke-scolding that doesn't even attempt to sneak in just how off the rainbow faggot chart that it really is once people are in.

For your fourth point, isn't Dragon Age an adult-oriented game from the start? There's zero fucking way that a child has heard of Dragon Age because despite looking like fortnite's retarded cousin, it's still not fortnite.
Utnayan and I were talking about this last night: The conventional thought is that ESG/BlackRock money will run out and some point and the Game/Content companies will have to course correct or die and AA companies will make big sellers that overtake them. The discussion revolved around: Will they, though? How much is it worth to the Powers that Be™ to keep up the assault on Norms and fund this kind of content? Some of these entities have the largest amount of assets under title in human history: Do they want to keep funding Movies/Games/TV shows that push this shit even though the customers aren't there? I think Ut cited something like 1.2 billion in losses recently in games like Suicide Squad, etc.; I don't know if number even includes Concord.

As artists/creators/business people, they would surely want to change. As activists/ideologues/advocates, they will keep standing on the metaphorical street corner and preaching as long as they have someone else's money to burn.

It depends on whose in charge at EA/Bioware.
One not-so-crazy conspiracy that I like is that other companies are willing to tank these outfits so they can buy them up on the cheap.

The real question in terms of not too far up the overall ladder is how long are the shareholders willing to put up with this obvious bullshit being paraded around by leadership who should rightly be seen as saboteurs. Ubisoft is a perfect example where the CEO himself refuses to relent on a strategy that only further cements the entire company as a derivative, creatively bankrupt gas fire. And that's a case where I would love to see Tencent buy their asses out because no one deserves to be under China's thumb any harder than those cunts.

When you have people rooting for games or companies as a whole to outright fail, someone has to raise their hand and ask what the actual fuck these companies are even doing.
 
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Yeah, manipulated user scores are nothing new, and not just for games, but movies and TV shows as well. With gaming being such a massive market now, there is zero chance that the major players aren't paying for manipulated scores on top of the braindead imbeciles contributing. "Return to form" is the biggest dead giveaway that would have me question the intellect of anyone who tried to claim otherwise when it is objectively worse across every conceivable metric than anything Bioware has ever made. You cannot have a "return to form" when the studio was already a hollowed out husk now filled with talentless theater school dropouts and tumblr fanfic writers with extra chromosomes.

There's a reason why the mythical modern audience is not just a meme, but an economic truth, or else we wouldn't see droves of Disney failures that are far less on the nose than Faggon Age.

The major difference between it and games like Concord, Dustborn, or that recent shit game that was a freebie is how this time it was attached to a known IP from a developer that apparently the average consumer, a.k.a. dumbfucks, haven't quite grasped hasn't been relevant or composed of a fraction of what made it renown in the first place for over a decade. That's all well and good until said average dumbfucks actually start the game and are greeted with digital troons demanding that their imaginary pronouns be respected while lecturing them on why they should be referred to in the plural. And that's the entire game, an infantile, digital woke-scolding that doesn't even attempt to sneak in just how off the rainbow faggot chart that it really is once people are in.

For your fourth point, isn't Dragon Age an adult-oriented game from the start? There's zero fucking way that a child has heard of Dragon Age because despite looking like fortnite's retarded cousin, it's still not fortnite.

One not-so-crazy conspiracy that I like is that other companies are willing to tank these outfits so they can buy them up on the cheap.

The real question in terms of not too far up the overall ladder is how long are the shareholders willing to put up with this obvious bullshit being paraded around by leadership who should rightly be seen as saboteurs. Ubisoft is a perfect example where the CEO himself refuses to relent on a strategy that only further cements the entire company as a derivative, creatively bankrupt gas fire. And that's a case where I would love to see Tencent buy their asses out because no one deserves to be under China's thumb any harder than those cunts.

When you have people rooting for games or companies as a whole to outright fail, someone has to raise their hand and ask what the actual fuck these companies are even doing.
I think people misunderstand the ways management works at these companies. Shareholders can at best get access to meetings or have the ear of a board member for random day to day things like a product. Votes only really come up for major corporate changes.

Now the board ostensibly is there to protect the interest of the shareholders and so one might be forgiven in thinking that say at Boeing a bunch of senior retired airlines and aero engineers are going to keep things in line. That literally never happens. Rather, the board basically wrestles with C level staffing, major directions, etc.

Of course a game in 2024 is going to be woke, because that's the culture. Of course the CEO is going to tell everyone how successful this modern installment of a beloved franchise will be. Of course the hiring reports are going to show massive success in increasing minority employees.

Literally no one there knows why things like this fail. The board and most major shareholders are there to see line go up. Basically they only know to replace C level or sell or buy. None of the C level have any idea about the products they produce. None of the managers have any KPIs associated with quality, just metrics and bullshit statistics like DEI representation. Only a handful of remaining productive sr technical people even understand how to build it. Creative is all taken over by fags.

So they literally don't know how to make good games, why games are good or why they failed. Ever. They will keep burning money until company goes under and everyone moves into the next org.
 
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Even if it makes a profit they lost a large percentage of sales with this shit. Unfortunately top execs may not realize this, coz they sure as hell wouldn’t willingly lose millions adding a lecturing about wrong pronouns.

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Imagine just making a good game like elden ring with no wokeass bullshit and being game of the century because it's just good.

I still have yet to play a game as good as ER.
 
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Slightly off topic, lol... As I said earlier, just booted up DA: Inquisition again.

Once the dust settles after the opening events, and you hit Haven for the first time, Cassandra is out in the training yard hacking away at the dummies. I'd completely forgotten about this chance encounter, (so many years ago it's possible I missed it altogether) but I think it's the first time you get to have a truly private conversation with her.

Everything about the exchange seemed utterly authentic, the voice acting/delivery/emotion, her facial expressions etc. All of it, so much so it choked me up a little to be honest. At that moment I formed a bond with her, and knew that even if we didn't agree, I would always be able to trust her.

Felt compelled to mention this in light of current events, as I never finished the game before, and probably wouldn't have decided to give it another serious look if not for all the noise around Veilguard. If memory serves, I stumbled somewhere in The Hinterlands/Storm Coast. Going to take it really slow this time, and hopefully make it to the end, DLCs included.
 
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Well all the DEI dialogues, lecturing how you should feel, wooden voice acting and 80s trash movie banter acting aside... this is a really mediocre game. I'm about 15 hours in and it's super linear, your dialogue choices do not really matter other than companion standing, the combat is clunky and very imprecise (I played warrior) and the overall story, well I read better one dollar grocery store fantasy novels. Seriously, I don't care about about all the weirdness of the characters around me but goddamn this is a 4/10 rpg game under the whole media drama cover. And I managed to make a lazy eye char that gives me ME:A vibes in every goddamn cutscene.
You're one of the low-IQ, faggot-retards that are giving this type of shit oxygen by buying the game...on day 1.

There's 50 fucking pages of us talking about how this game is COMPLETE trash and you buy it anyway. I cannot formulate a sentence for how much I despise people like you.

Fuck yourself with a barbed wire-lined pocket pussy.
 
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Is DA: Inquisition worth playing? I think I bought it for like 4 bucks a while back, but it's just been sitting on my Steam library.
 
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Is DA: Inquisition worth playing? I think I bought it for like 4 bucks a while back, but it's just been sitting on my Steam library.
It's a bit on the mediocre side but was still a massive step up in quality from DA2. Aside from a few truly cringe inducing companion interactions the biggest issue with the game is that it came out 6 months before Witcher 3 and ended up completely overshadowed.
 
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Is DA: Inquisition worth playing? I think I bought it for like 4 bucks a while back, but it's just been sitting on my Steam library.
There are probably 40+ RPGs that have come out since DAI was released that are more worth playing. If you've played all of them and still want to play more, then sure.

I played it at release and it's one of the very few RPGs I did not finish.
 
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Is DA: Inquisition worth playing? I think I bought it for like 4 bucks a while back, but it's just been sitting on my Steam library.

It's alright if you like collect-a-thons. Feels like the game started life as an MMO with huge maps. Story is nothing special, although IMO the game does a good job of making each main story quest feel different than the others (there is a mutually exclusive quest branch with the Mages and Templars, and each feels very unique).

The main DEI issue is in an optional conversation with Krem, but largely it's not as in your face as Andromeda and Troonguard.
 
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You're one of the low-IQ, faggot-retards that are giving this type of shit oxygen by buying the game...on day 1.

There's 50 fucking pages of us talking about how this game is COMPLETE trash and you buy it anyway. I cannot formulate a sentence for how much I despise people like you.

Fuck yourself with a barbed wire-lined pocket pussy.
See this is why you people are doomed. I was talking about the game itself and all I said was the game itself is"mediocre". Disappointing for that budget and development time. I really don't care about your stupid infantile crusade that just want to game to fail because it does not reflect your social believes. Also I did not buy it, I played the Tenoke version. Because after my YT timeline was full of people forgetting how to act as a civil human being and discuss something on a level that normal educated person can accept and participate in, I wanted to experience it myself to form an opinion.

Just stop with the low IQ hate of things you don't accept. Because "these" people already got what they wanted that way: they got your, well our attention and polluted almost all type of media with opinions and believes. And I play computer games for escapism and to open a comfort zone, not to exit one.
 
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See this is why you people are doomed. I was talking about the game itself and all I said was the game itself is"mediocre". Disappointing for that budget and development time. I really don't care about your stupid infantile crusade that just want to game to fail because it does not reflect your social believes. Also I did not buy it, I played the Tenoke version. Because after my YT timeline was full of people forgetting how to act as a civil human being and discuss something on a level that normal educated person can accept and participate in, I wanted to experience it myself to form an opinion.

Just stop with the low IQ hate of things you don't accept. Because "these" people already got what they wanted that way: they got your, well our attention and polluted almost all type of media with opinions and believes. And I play computer games for escapism and to open a comfort zone, not to exit one.
faggot
 
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See this is why you people are doomed. I was talking about the game itself and all I said was the game itself is"mediocre". Disappointing for that budget and development time. I really don't care about your stupid infantile crusade that just want to game to fail because it does not reflect your social believes. Also I did not buy it, I played the Tenoke version. Because after my YT timeline was full of people forgetting how to act as a civil human being and discuss something on a level that normal educated person can accept and participate in, I wanted to experience it myself to form an opinion.

Just stop with the low IQ hate of things you don't accept. Because "these" people already got what they wanted that way: they got your, well our attention and polluted almost all type of media with opinions and believes. And I play computer games for escapism and to open a comfort zone, not to exit one.
Glad to hear you didn't spend $ on this garbage. Don't sweat the rabid losers here trying to out-edgelord each other.
 
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