EQ Classic? Not really.

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vazdeline_sl

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I think rangers in Velious can put out some signifigant burst though? Weren't some good bows and trueshot introduced? Also haste from quivers.

Pretty sure in Thunderwalkers we had a ranger in TOV using trueshot whenever it was up.
 

mkopec

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Trueshot was added between Kunark and Velious supposedly, its a disc. But the AA that made it a beast was not added until Luclin, namely archery mastery one which did double damage, and of course the endless quiver.
 

vazdeline_sl

shitlord
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Trueshot was added between Kunark and Velious supposedly, its a disc. But the AA that made it a beast was not added until Luclin, namely archery mastery one which did double damage, and of course the endless quiver.
Can any Rangers from the Velious era vouch for its viability (When it is up)? Pretty sure I saw it used every time by Rangers in Velious.
 

Kithani

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Were people parsing in Velious? It's possible that you saw it used but it still wasn't very effective. People in old EQ tended to not really have a clue whether or not they were playing correctly (not that it's any better nowadays either).
 

Szeth

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Can any Rangers from the Velious era vouch for its viability (When it is up)? Pretty sure I saw it used every time by Rangers in Velious.
Dagarn's machine gun bow in velious, with trueshot and ranger ability to crit with ranged could be pretty beast. (anecdotal)
 

Iwazaru_sl

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I played a Ranger from classic to GoD. Archery damage was only worth it when Trueshot was up in Velious, unless you had a very rare quest bow from sky, or Primal. It wasn't until Luclin when we picked up Archery Mastery and Endless Quiver that archery became viable DPS without Trueshot.
 

Noahx

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Considering the fact that it took EQC five fucking years to even begin talking about alpha testing, I imagine P99 won't even exist by the time it's finished. The question is whether any of us will be alive by then.
From the posts and live streaming, it's hard to say how fast progress is being made nor am I tech savvy enough to understand the scope of what they are trying to do.

Shit, for all we know this could be 4-5 jaded fucks trolling people that have an unhealthy obsession with Everquest nostalgia. But hey, call me trolled and buy me a scrip for my sickness.
 

Ether

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From the posts and live streaming, it's hard to say how fast progress is being made nor am I tech savvy enough to understand the scope of what they are trying to do.

Shit, for all we know this could be 4-5 jaded fucks trolling people that have an unhealthy obsession with Everquest nostalgia. But hey, call me trolled and buy me a scrip for my sickness.
Comments like axeman's are probably best ignored as there is a lot of animosity in the EQEmu community, especially between P99 and EQClassic. One of Yeahlight's posts indicated development should "explode" once they got past the core development phase, which they now have, but there is still a lot of work to be done, especially with the database. I would hope EQClassic will see release at the end of this year or early next year, but it's hard to say at this point.
 

axeman_sl

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Can any Rangers from the Velious era vouch for its viability (When it is up)? Pretty sure I saw it used every time by Rangers in Velious.
It pretty much just allowed you to temporarily do DPS with a bow that was similar to your basic melee DPS, with the obvious advantage of being ranged. People used it more out of a desire to utilize an iconic class feature than for any particular purpose. Archery was the only way for rangers to crit at the time so rangers liked the novelty of seeing their name next to a big crit message, knowing that everyone else could see it as well. Ranger doesn't become a good class until Luclin. Until then, their damage output is on par with warriors (the ones that aren't tanking and so can equip DPS weapons, anyway) and they have almost no utility on raids aside from weaponshield tanking which is moderately useful to a guild that's just breaking into the raid scene and struggles to get things done.
 

Nester

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It pretty much just allowed you to temporarily do DPS with a bow that was similar to your basic melee DPS, with the obvious advantage of being ranged. People used it more out of a desire to utilize an iconic class feature than for any particular purpose. Archery was the only way for rangers to crit at the time so rangers liked the novelty of seeing their name next to a big crit message, knowing that everyone else could see it as well. Ranger doesn't become a good class until Luclin. Until then, their damage output is on par with warriors (the ones that aren't tanking and so can equip DPS weapons, anyway) and they have almost no utility on raids aside from weaponshield tanking which is moderately useful to a guild that's just breaking into the raid scene and struggles to get things done.
Pretty much, however ranger dps is more than warrior dps in similar gear (ntov/st) and Trueshot without AA's again in ST/NTOV gear is less then base melee. TS is very situational in Velious at best (really only used it on ventani), and a novelty at worst. Luclin is such a huge game changer, unless your guild insists on walling all raid targets =p

I just spent the last year doing progression on EQMAC.
 

Xarpolis

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For those of you following the progress of EQ Classic, here is a post that Yeahlight just made on the EQC forum. It's informative.

Yeahlight_sl said:
gotrocks?_sl said:
How are the developers going to ensure a classic eq experience in regards to quests, quest text, what each NPC says when you hail them, etc?

Also including original mob hps/mps/dmg/etc, spawn points, pathing, how quests worked... its a long list.
I will not be involved with this. Earlier this year, I reached out to SoE with a proposal that traded liability and monthly subscriptions for their classic content and distribution rights, but they declined it. Without an agreement in place, I will not be involved in the distribution of SoE's IP. Anyone else is welcome to assume this risk, but it is not going to be me.

lordbc_sl said:
P99 got off the ground because one of the ciders from EQC threw a tantrum and handed over lots of code.
This never occurred. In 2009, I welcomed some old "developers" back and they secretly had plans of taking our work and starting their own project (this never became anything, because these people are lazy, unmotivated and unskilled). When their plans became known, I immediately released our work so that it could never be held over our heads. Unfortunately, one of these people suffers from a delusional disorder and they never pass up the opportunity to inform the World of the wrongs they "committed" against us. In reality, they did not do anything, but they still enjoy taking the credit for something that never occurred.

It is very unlikely that an EQEmu server used any significant portion of our work at that time.

Hanocaz_sl said:
However a database filled with 1000000+ entries is just beyond the scope of any free persons time.
This is a side effect of scraping Allakhazam for NPC data. The actual NPC data from EQLive is probably less than 5% of the data you see in PEQ's NPC database. Since the data is exploded and replicated for each zone and for each NPC in each zone on Allakhazam, the end result is a giant, unmaintainable mess. For instance, EQLive had roughly eight gem drop tables for all NPCs, but in PEQ's database you have gem drops assigned to specific NPCs. Instead of maintaining a handful of gem drop tables, you have thousands of loot tables you need to modify to adjust gem drop rates (plus, specific gems were not assigned to specific NPCs; an NPC simply had access to a shared gem drop table).
 

Ether

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gotrocks?_sl said:
How are the developers going to ensure a classic eq experience in regards to quests, quest text, what each NPC says when you hail them, etc?Also including original mob hps/mps/dmg/etc, spawn points, pathing, how quests worked... its a long list.
I will not be involved with this. Earlier this year, I reached out to SoE with a proposal that traded liability and monthly subscriptions for their classic content and distribution rights, but they declined it. Without an agreement in place, I will not be involved in the distribution of SoE's IP. Anyone else is welcome to assume this risk, but it is not going to be me.
I'm confused by this. I thought YL would be working on the database with the help of the community. Is this all not part of "Database Refinement"'on the development roadmap?
 

pointyboot

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as much as i appreciate YL's work and can't wait to play, i wish he would just let us know wtf the game plan is already.