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Tell me again how the MMO market would do better by imitating WoW?
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Tell me again how the MMO market would do better by imitating WoW?
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Until this new generation of MMO players learn that the risk of losing something, as opposed to being handed everything on a platter and secured from failure or loss, actually makes the game experience better, then the MMO market is doomed to continue to repeat the cycle its currently in (and has been for 10+ years) over and over.
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Atleast WoW and its clones keep the trinity, EQN is trying to be WoW+EQ+LOL. I used to be optimistic about EQN but i could easily see it being reset yet again at this point. I mean you only get one real update a year at the actual progress, so who knows wtf is going on at this point.
This genre just needs to be put down. They've fucked it up so terribly there's just no point to keep it on life support anymore. Pull the cord. Actually, pull the cord on the entire piece of shit industry.
This generation is playing Ranked games in League of Legends and learning the lessons of flaming and losing LP.
I want to feel thatoh shit, I... fucked upfeeling in the pit of your stomach, where you know you'll be spending the next few hours un-fucking yourself in some capacity because of your mistake.
No game has that currently.
No game has that currently.
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Eh.
SWTOR isn't really a WoW clone, unless the combat has changed from what I remember and it's not really successful given that it's a major IP and IIRC EA/Bioware had lots of layoffs because it didn't meet expectations. But perhaps I'm misremembering - it isn't a game I followed past Beta.
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I prefer consequence over being handed shit. I miss the fear of de-leveling from constant fuck ups. However as stated the majority wouldnt like it, and the majority will always be catered to since in the end its just business.
In the end no one will get everything they want, so we come here to post and gripe!
In the end no one will get everything they want, so we come here to post and gripe!
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Life support? Maybe to you, but trust me the genre is not even close to life support.
Sounds like YOU need to be taken off life support and find something else.
I think if someone were to make an MMO like that again, they'd have to advertise it like Dark Souls was advertised. You have to make it a point to tell people, "you're going to die, its what happens in this game, it's made to be hard as fuck to the point of being unfair."
These days, kids that just do normal raids in WoW 3 nights of the week consider themselves hardcore. The definition of it has changed. When we played EQ, the hardcore were the raiders that raided a dungeon for 10 hours, wiping 30 times and having no social life what so ever. Now adays, being a hard core raider is just logging in at the right time and raiding.
If someone made a game like this, they'd have to advertise it as the Dark Souls of MMOs.
These days, kids that just do normal raids in WoW 3 nights of the week consider themselves hardcore. The definition of it has changed. When we played EQ, the hardcore were the raiders that raided a dungeon for 10 hours, wiping 30 times and having no social life what so ever. Now adays, being a hard core raider is just logging in at the right time and raiding.
If someone made a game like this, they'd have to advertise it as the Dark Souls of MMOs.
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FTFY. Your post reminded me of the 100+ million cost of the game which EA hasn't recovered. If you want to call it a WoW clone, go ahead, I thought the combat in beta back in 2010 was shit compared to WoW's combat with some weird duck and cover mechanic or something but maybe things have changed.
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Eh? Wasn't there info that SWOTR made over 100m in just one year from F2P. So, not sure how they haven't gotten the cost back.
SWToR revenue surpasses $100 million for 2014
That shows 139m from 2013, and another 100m from 6 months of 2014. That's not counting box/subs w/e from before f2p. Also not sure exactly what "F2p" earnings mean(ie does it count people playing subs, paying for expansions etc).