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rolx_sl

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I was aiming more for keying al la vex thall. Promoting group things you and your guild mates could group for during the day and pieces you had to achieve as a guild to complete.
Ya pretty much same thing bro. The constant quest you get after you kill raid mob x that was my point. Stuff to do between raids that is still a group effort for the guild. Everyone kills the first boss in the zone, then you have to go do a bunch of stuff that is group work but still cool reminded me of SWG having to jump on stuff and do puzzzles that were in crazy places to get those extra stats is fun. Then you feel like you've put in good effort to get to the next part of the quest which leads you back into the raid zone. Its fun to be able to do one huge meaning ful quest with your guild who's all on the same steps but then everyone has to stop at the point where you kill the next raid boss. Thats the problem with games these days, theres NOTHING to do for max levels EXCEPT raid. And then people get bored.
 

Quaid

Trump's Staff
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Got a link?

And dear lord, if Darin, Jeff, Rosie or whoever decide to post here, please try to engage them in meaningful and constructive conversation. I'd love the opportunity to influence the direction and success of this game.
 

Dumar_sl

shitlord
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Got a link?

And dear lord, if Darin, Jeff, Rosie or whoever decide to post here, please try to engage them in meaningful and constructive conversation. I'd love the opportunity to influence the direction and success of this game.
We'll be cordial, but this isn't Reddit. I would hope they would value honesty, but perhaps not if Reddit is in fact where they're getting their community direction.

I scanned the EQN sub for about 10 minutes, was enough.
 

Convo

Ahn'Qiraj Raider
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I think people will..I mean as long as they are not coming off like a snake oil salesman. Just keep things honest and it should be productive for all.

Btw..I think by now they are aware of the major concerns with EQN. They have a vision obviously.. So they should totally peruse it until it work or come to the conclusion that it falls flat. Worst case we revamp with a EQ/VG hybrid ;-)
 

rolx_sl

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Mmorpg is one of the most casual meetup gaming sites i've ever seen. I went on there this morning and the first thread I saw was why the game should be PAY2WIN and I just closed the window.
 

Convo

Ahn'Qiraj Raider
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Mmorpg is one of the most casual meetup gaming sites i've ever seen. I went on there this morning and the first thread I saw was why the game should be PAY2WIN and I just closed the window.
Terrible place and they allow the shills to run wild.. You can't have real discussion on there.
 

Lohk_sl

shitlord
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what exactly is wrong with that?

let players come up solutions to beat encounters based on their party/raid makeup. do not force a singular way to beat a boss.
Isn't that exactly why we have shitty guides nowadays for raid bosses? they all have one path to beat them? doesnt that kindof suck?
The enrage timer, as of now, is the best solution. If you remove an enrage timer for a boss and you have a 10 person raid team, nothing is stopping that team from 1 tank 9 healing that boss. Effectively, making everything that boss does trivial. Where is the challenge? The object of raiding is to solve a puzzle as a team.
 

Mr Creed

Too old for this shit
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Enrage timers are shit. The encounter shouldn't HAVE to end in a specific time unless the room is filling with lava or wtf ever else which is still a "enrage" timer just in a different way.
That's the kind of "enrage timer" I can get behind. I'm playing a fantasy game because I like a bit of immersion in my in spare time. If I wanted to play with optimized statistical spreadsheets I would just run missions in EVE. So as long as the dev takes the time to design enrage timers that comply with my suspension of disbelief I'm fine with that. But the 100th boss mob that gets overpowerful after exactly x minutes ruins that. Believable soft enrage timers are ok-ish (in EQN, I want to be able to prepare for that encounter by digging flow trenches for the lava to buy our raid some time - so get on that liquid voxel tech SOE).
 

Big Flex

Fitness Fascist
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Got a link?

And dear lord, if Darin, Jeff, Rosie or whoever decide to post here, please try to engage them in meaningful and constructive conversation. I'd love the opportunity to influence the direction and success of this game.
Seriously, I used a smiley face to Darrin and promised to wear a chainmail thong for Rosie, don't make it for not
 

Mr Creed

Too old for this shit
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On keying for dungeons and raid zones hell yah makes it way more epic to go in. Should it be like sleepers were theres 4 dragons in the world on timers that drop 1 key...meh maybe not maybe so depends on what guild your in. One thing I really liked about eq2 was there was TONS of group stuff to do in-between raid quests. You kill raid boss X then you have to do a bunch of group stuff to get up to the point where your prepared to enter the raid zone to keep progressing the quest. It gave you something to do all day or for a few days while you were in-between raids, and it was actually challenging and fun stuff.
I'm neutral to positive on keying. I prefer it to be a solo/group activity though, reflag raid days is something I dont really want to see again. I'm sure if someone puts some effort into it they can come up with a key quest method that's better then spending your yearly vacation time in maidens eye.
 

tad10

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Seriously, I used a smiley face to Darrin and promised to wear a chainmail thong for Rosie, don't make it for not
Eh. That'll just lead to BS like banning Ut again. If a dev wants to post on this board he should realize a shitstorm is coming and put on his flame retardant - mmorpg has a ton of people screaming EQN sucks so if McPherson can post there he can post here. Except here the reasons for our concern will be better articulated.
 

Big Flex

Fitness Fascist
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Except here the reasons for our concern will be better articulated.
That is probably why they don't post here.

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MMORPG and Reddit is a lot more softball.
 

Grumpus

Molten Core Raider
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We are the gd mos eisley space port of forums and the eqnext devs are young naive luke.

Dumer- my friend sais he doeant like you
Qwerty- bleeerggghhh errrr heeerpy derp
Dumar- I have the death sentence on 12 message boards

Then Tuco chops qwertys arm off
 

rolx_sl

shitlord
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That's the kind of "enrage timer" I can get behind. I'm playing a fantasy game because I like a bit of immersion in my in spare time. If I wanted to play with optimized statistical spreadsheets I would just run missions in EVE. So as long as the dev takes the time to design enrage timers that comply with my suspension of disbelief I'm fine with that. But the 100th boss mob that gets overpowerful after exactly x minutes ruins that. Believable soft enrage timers are ok-ish (in EQN,I want to be able to prepare for that encounter by digging flow trenches for the lavato buy our raid some time - so get on that liquid voxel tech SOE).
That is a very interesting idea bringing crafter/digging or whatever types into raid style things could be interesting. I would like to see reasons for people to have to do stuff like this, and have to parkour around objects and stuff to get away from the boss when he "looks back" at you or something instead of red circles. The raids need to be epic not just tank and spank but right now i'm hearing no raids if there isn't raiding in this game that will be revolutionary as in one of the most casual games ever made. Look how long neverwinter lasted? Not having high end content for the dedicated gamers is a HUGE mistake.
There should be aspecificdev team in place JUST for high end content. They don't even care about what happens until the final tiers of the game thats all they are dedicated to doing. If you focus all ur bullets on low level to mid level stuff the core of the gamers are going to feel it and quit.
 

rolx_sl

shitlord
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Eh. That'll just lead to BS like banning Ut again. If a dev wants to post on this board he should realize a shitstorm is coming and put on his flame retardant - mmorpg has a ton of people screaming EQN sucks so if McPherson can post there he can post here. Except here the reasons for our concern will be better articulated.
The problem with them posting here is it isnt specific topics, this board is just a constant discussion that changes topic every 3-4 pages. Unless they checked in 10x a day they would lose track of any type of convo.
 

Soygen

The Dirty Dozen For the Price of One
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We are the gd mos eisley space port of forums and the eqnext deva are young naive luke.

Dumer- my friend sais he doeant like you
Qwerty- bleeerggghhh errrr heeerpy derp
Dumar- I have the death sentence on 12 message boards

Then Tuco chops qwertys arm off
I laughed.