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Actually snorted when I read that tweet. If it had any chance of success Daybreak wouldn't have canned a game 3+ years in development when they took over. Fucking delusional.
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Actually snorted when I read that tweet. If it had any chance of success Daybreak wouldn't have canned a game 3+ years in development when they took over. Fucking delusional.
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Admittedly, I never cared for the gameplay direction they were going for with EQN, but I thought the world Rosie and artists were creating was amazing. I really think the destructible world aspect could have been dropped and most people wouldn't have cared. There would be some grumbling from some people, but a good game has to come before crazy tech IMO. I would still love to see an EQ3 someday, but I just don't see it happening now, and certainly not how I would make it.. Probably because my ideas wouldn't appeal to the casual gamer all that much, so I'd be limited to a niche group of gamers at best. C'est la vie.
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After three years there was no agreement on gameplay and core features. Apart from that I agree the art was amazing. Especially the art of the buildings that was done without knowing how to actually build it with voxels, or if the voxels could have been implemented at all in buildings.
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They could have made EQN great if they would have blown it up for the 15th time, been given more money in their exhausted budget, hired an all new management team, took Landmark out back and took a shit on it, etc. etc. They were so unfairly cut off!
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Aye its absolutely ridiculous how much that is the case. At the launch event it's now obvious they looked at whatever emerging technologies there were, decided they were going to put all of them in the game, make some art assets and announce it to the world.
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You are correct. These games are much worse with DBG over them, and starving them. I played DCUO since launch, but they cut the budget to that also. Now content comes at a snail's pace, and when it does come out, it's too easy to clear fast.
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This is an unpopular opinion, but while Domino was a super nice person with good intentions, her vision and ability to persuade people to it did massive harm to EQ2. It was definitely a large part of the cause in decline of that game. She had a huge part in all the insanely repetitive shit that ended up filtering it's way to every aspect of the game.
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Not unpopular in my opinion but spot on. She did well relating to the tradeskillers and some of the stay-at-home's that tinkered in the houses. Don't get me wrong, I think housing was a fantastic feature and no one has done it better but they really took a lot of areas of EQ that were just the icing on the cake and completely neglected the cake.
I'm not sure if EQ2 was a leadership thing or just the wrong talents working but they really missed an opportunity to ride the moment and make an excellent game in the long run but they got half way through the race and then fell flat on their face.
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Actually, it's more accurate to say the Creative Director saw how big Minecraft was blowing up.. They took the ENTIRE GODDAMN DESIGN TEAM to MineCon in Vegas, and came back with the "idea" to make a Minecraft style destructible world in an MMO.
Curious if that world ever made if past concept art. It's a shame.
Yes. At least a few small areas were built before it was scrapped in favor of the more cartoony look.
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Which is a horrible idea in any "persistent" type game. I mean, could you imagine 2K people building and destroying shit in an mmo and think how this world would look after a week, let alone a few years?
So you then have to reset everything after a certain time, which makes everything about minecraft mmo, totally worthless.
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Yeah, it is pretty moronic. There would have been a week or two where it felt pretty epic, then the novelty would have worn off and you would have come to realize your gaming experience was at the mercy of lil Timmy and his pick axe. There would have been entire guilds devoted to nothing but world destruction and it would have been the biggest troll-fest in the history of gaming.
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Its on the level of designing an MMO pvp game in 2017 without *realizing* that players will often grief eachother any and every chance they possibly get. The curious thing is how this was not bleeding obvious to everyone (esp higher up people) involved from the beginning, seeing as, you know, they had been running EQ from 1999? Must have been a fair few of faces burried in palms in the lower ranks heh.
Initially the idea sounded pretty cool.. but beyond that initial 30 minute tech demo.. the questions started pouring in from other designers in the company, and that's basically when the team went dark internally. There was a solid year+ when nobody outside of that team heard anything at all about the game.