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TairyGreene

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Uncontested OW and deeper splits.
Right. Derp. As a subscriber to the drama, I shoulda known.

Where's RI? Weren't they supposed to be waiting to pounce with their ranger army or something? Their guild bank suddenly "vanish" recently? Lol
 

Zaide

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Right. Derp. As a subscriber to the drama, I shoulda known.

Where's RI? Weren't they supposed to be waiting to pounce with their ranger army or something? Their guild bank suddenly "vanish" recently? Lol
I am sure they’ll begin competing soon.
 

Ysu

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Finally saw some Planes Rifts for 1.5 and 2mil on the /baz. RI will be in OW soon enough!
 

Zaide

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Cool story bro. We both know you're raiding with a lot more people on Teek then you had on Mischief.
No one indicated otherwise? What are you even trying to argue lmao. That hate boner is clouding your judgment.
 
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dragonbr

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500 main guild vs 150 main guild.
It's actually 72 characters versus 72 characters, but cry more?

Also, why is the guild that "won" kunark and velious having such a hard time recruiting? Those public channel recruiting messages not paying dividends?
 
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Zaide

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People like to throw around zerg a lot on TLP like it’s an insult. Maintaining a healthy roster is the whole challenge of running a guild. No guild on any of these TLPs has a strenuous application process. Most guilds are taking whoever they can get, especially guilds recruiting in general chat.

If every guild will take almost any player, and most of the players choose a specific guild, there is a reason for it.
 
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Gheed

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People like to throw around zerg a lot on TLP like it’s an insult. Maintaining a healthy roster is the whole challenge of running a guild. No guild on any of these TLPs has a strenuous application process. Most guilds are taking whoever they can get, especially guilds recruiting in general chat.

If every guild will take almost any player, and most of the players choose a specific guild, there is a reason for it.

It's a bit of an insult. Everquest is and has always been a numbers game though. We can argue that a DPS race is 72 vs 72 but there are a lot more factors at play, such as being able to actually field a raid of 72 DPS ONLY at all times of the day. IMO the general population of a guild with hundreds of members (AKA a zerg) will be idiots who think they are God's gift to EQ because they turn on their auto attack in OW.

You are right that every guild will take almost any player but only TWO guilds actually compete for OW. So you either join the current winners or current losers, it's a pretty easy decision.

It's all about leadership and how many dumbasses you can fill a roster with.
 
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Zaide

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It's a bit of an insult. Everquest is and has always been a numbers game though. We can argue that a DPS race is 72 vs 72 but there are a lot more factors at play, such as being able to actually field a raid of 72 DPS ONLY at all times of the day. IMO the general population of a guild with hundreds of members (AKA a zerg) will be idiots who think they are God's gift to EQ because they turn on their auto attack in OW.

It's all about leadership and how many dumbasses you can fill a roster with.
In late Velious there was a guy in RI talking shit after losing a bunch of raids. Turns out he thought they were winning all these races and we just got the serverwides because we tagged them first. Neither guild is full of scholars.

Small RMT/Krono squads are probably the “best” guilds by both loot per capita (by miles) and by average player skill.
 
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Gheed

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In late Velious there was a guy in RI talking shit after losing a bunch of raids. Turns out he thought they were winning all these races and we just got the serverwides because we tagged them first. Neither guild is full of scholars.

Small RMT/Krono squads are probably the “best” guilds by both loot per capita (by miles) and by average player skill.

I definitely didn't mean to imply that RI didn't have their fair share of morons and dickheads.

Their issue is they have no staying power. Once things start to go bad for them they will resort to whatever metric they can to point at a win and I think some members start to see through the facade and quit.

For example, not getting OW emp but killing some wraiths and proclaiming it a victory like one of the 30 box crews couldn't have done the same thing. It really reminds me of the dark times when I played Red and the lunacy that attracts. I have a "friend" in RI who sent me a picture of his Phinigel loot that was photoshopped to show him getting double loot. Safe to say they are down pretty bad.
 
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Rajaah

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500 main guild vs 150 main guild.

Not sure where you're getting those numbers. Would say that FF has around 220 mains that play regularly and RI probably has around 110. Could be wrong on the latter because it's a guess. Whatever it is it's thereabouts and I'd say FF has a 2:1 people advantage.

If people heard good things about RI (and it didn't repeatedly embarrass itself) maybe it'd have more people applying.
 
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Sloan

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It's a bit of an insult. Everquest is and has always been a numbers game though. We can argue that a DPS race is 72 vs 72 but there are a lot more factors at play, such as being able to actually field a raid of 72 DPS ONLY at all times of the day. IMO the general population of a guild with hundreds of members (AKA a zerg) will be idiots who think they are God's gift to EQ because they turn on their auto attack in OW.

You are right that every guild will take almost any player but only TWO guilds actually compete for OW. So you either join the current winners or current losers, it's a pretty easy decision.

It's all about leadership and how many dumbasses you can fill a roster with.
More of an issue of making right decisions for the longevity of the guild / having an environment that is able to integrate new people. There was a long stretch were RI was winning almost all content from last half of Kunark through first week or two of Velious - they couldnt manage to build something outside of their core group to last through the losing phase that came after Kunark though.

The last two weeks of Kunark in Faceless we were pulling like 25-30 people to their 50-60 in VP and still racing them. I dont remember us every crying about their zerg relative to our numbers.
 
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Sterling

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Pretty sure he means that the Teek Faceless guild has 500 players and they had 150 on mischief so that's one of the main reasons they're getting more loot now.
 
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Gheed

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More of an issue of making right decisions for the longevity of the guild / having an environment that is able to integrate new people. There was a long stretch were RI was winning almost all content from last half of Kunark through first week or two of Velious - they couldnt manage to build something outside of their core group to last through the losing phase that came after Kunark though.

The last two weeks of Kunark in Faceless we were pulling like 25-30 people to their 50-60 in VP and still racing them. I dont remember us every crying about their zerg relative to our numbers.

I can agree with that. Like I said, there are a lot of factors at play. From what I hear its a very toxic voice chat and most fun is had at the expense of other members which is probably why all their recruitment messages say "thick skin" is required. Not exactly conducive to a welcoming atmosphere.

Not sure about that last part though. I bet you guys made plenty of comments about their numbers vs yours when you were at a large disadvantage, whether in game or in comms.
 

Cinge

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500 players would be insane. Its still crazy, I cant imagine having any responsbility for the herd of cats, but man 500. I think you might legitmately go crazy if you had that many raiding and you had to organize it and listen to all the whining.

In the end its a numbers game. The 4 months of pop is going to drain a lot, more then normal who seem to only like classic > pop and then do it all over again.