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Half of your guild is going to look like drunk lemmings as they try to navigate PoP launch
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Half of your guild is going to look like drunk lemmings as they try to navigate PoP launch
Zaide
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Xevy
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We only raid on set raid days and we've had a map of a step-by-step flagging/killing PoP flag since Agnarr. We'll be fine for the most part. The one hitch we had on Mangler was some people, including me a mostly non-retard, got bugged and couldn't get into Sol Ro tower even though we did the flagging correctly. I don't remember what we had to do, but there was some combinations of unlocks and relogs and shit to get it right. I think like 10 of us couldn't get in and we checked our logged parses of our progression on Mangler and there was a 30 minute gap in a raid because it was us working out the flag bugs.
Outside of Storms keying which we did an entire day of bonus DKP non-mandatory attendance, we cleared all of PoP in 16.5 hours of DZ instance time for a full 54 flags of time and dead Quarm.
Outside of Storms keying which we did an entire day of bonus DKP non-mandatory attendance, we cleared all of PoP in 16.5 hours of DZ instance time for a full 54 flags of time and dead Quarm.
Sieger
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To be honest too I think a lot of RI just don't understand there's people that a lot of gamers don't like playing with. The #1 thing I hear from people who have been with RI on other servers, but are now with Faceless, is "Mabbu is the biggest thing holding them back, if you aren't part of his circle no one likes him and he's terrible to play with." I can't speak to that personally, I was briefly in Bind Rush with him and didn't have any arguments with him or anything, but I hear it from enough ex-RI people that it seems like something that Mabbu puts out, isn't well received.
RI has a core of people who follow him everywhere, so to that point he is valuable, but it seems like he's also what prevents them from recruiting into a larger force.
The other thing RI has going for them is they roll a new guild every year, so even people who don't like Mabbu, will drift into RI on the servers where RI has weak competition and people have more limited raiding options.
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Zaide
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Cinge
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Also depends how much of poe2 there is. 2 Acts? 3?
And I expect their servers to die for at least the weekend.
Plenty of time to do intial PoP launch and then see how poe2 is.
Sieger
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It was interesting because me and Suineg would still chat sometimes during all this, and he was often echoing to me how hard it was to recruit for Amtrak.
When Suineg bailed on us after launch to join Amtrak, he basically told me I was a nice guy but "you won't be able to keep people and compete and I want to go long term on Selo."
I think a couple people that bailed on me early were working with that same assumption, they understand the game in the context of prior TLPs. Amtrak was built like a guild that would have dominated a server like Phinigel or Coirnav etc for several years. But in my mind right away, I knew that the biggest challenge on Selo would be finding a way to keep a guild viable when you have to do a new expansion every single month.
A typical TLP expansion launch is something people take days off of work for to no life, I never imagined people could do that every month for 2 years. Everything about how I promoted the Selo guild, was that we were making a guild to do the full run, and everything about how we made decisions was linked to that same idea. Amtrak was never building for 2 years, they were building for the next expansion, and I think that puts you in the position you describe.
I think a lot of TLP personalities loathe the roster management aspect of running a guild, because it kind of flips the meta on its head. The OG view is the guild leader is a rockstar tyrant, anyone who says boo to him gets booted. You can hear about RI people being booted on the reg for minor transgressions (usually people who aren't part of the "clique.") A roster management focus means the guild leader is more like an NFL coach--aside from a few very rare exceptions, the NFL coach is not the most important person on the team, and also will be paid significantly less than lots of guys on his team. Lots of mediocre coaches can win with a great roster, but even great coaches can't win with a bad roster. This means as a guild leader you have to be humble at times, you have to have DM conversations with a stupid cleric who causes drama and you'd love to boot, because that cleric is another piece of the puzzle that lets you keep split raiding, which lets you keep your guild big, which lets you weather the attrition of each expansion. But that just isn't fun for most people, they'd rather boot the guy the second he's trouble and then make a sound board about it.
It feels good, but it doesn't get you to the finish line.
That being said a lot of TLP guilds don't care about the finish line, they have solely made a guild for the personal entertainment of their core guys for a 8-12 month window.
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hEKK
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yerm
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Zaide
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Hekk isn’t in RI he’s either not playing or he’s with Playerjuan in DLS I’d guess.
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Tank pulling is perfectly fine if its a moving camp. If anything, its the best choice if they aren't a drooling room-temp. I used to almost exclusively pull with my cleric alt back when I played it. Clerics are extremely fine pullers, and tbh most clerics are just lazy pieces of shit.
Arbitrary
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Looking ahead to Planes of Power and the Anniversary Tower
The first thing to notice is not all of these are strict upgrades over the 55 versions. The generic earring with a caster augment is less hp/mana, the cloak is barely an upgrade, etc. The belt comes with haste but the haste is bad (21%). The pet class earring has the Planes of Power quality focus that's on the Symbol of Ancient Summoning. The charm gets way better,. Both +attack augs improve more relative to the mana regen aug.
Finally all of this gear has a type 3 augment slot. There's one floor left and with the available augments all slots are spoken for. It's possible the 11th floor is a type 3 augment. The final unlock is a boss at the top of the tower and he might have type 3 augments in his drop pool. If not the type 3 augments in LDoN are typically kind you use to customize armor bought from the vendors. The raid drops can have focus effects, heroic stats and other decent shit.
The first thing to notice is not all of these are strict upgrades over the 55 versions. The generic earring with a caster augment is less hp/mana, the cloak is barely an upgrade, etc. The belt comes with haste but the haste is bad (21%). The pet class earring has the Planes of Power quality focus that's on the Symbol of Ancient Summoning. The charm gets way better,. Both +attack augs improve more relative to the mana regen aug.
Finally all of this gear has a type 3 augment slot. There's one floor left and with the available augments all slots are spoken for. It's possible the 11th floor is a type 3 augment. The final unlock is a boss at the top of the tower and he might have type 3 augments in his drop pool. If not the type 3 augments in LDoN are typically kind you use to customize armor bought from the vendors. The raid drops can have focus effects, heroic stats and other decent shit.
Gheed
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What's the dream? I've gotta say I am intrigued!
The upgraded gear will be nice for some of my boxes but other than that I hope it dies a painful death. Fuck the tower
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hEKK
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Sieger
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LOL, big hEKK still going strong after all these years, are you even playing EQ anymore?
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hEKK
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Rajaah
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hEKK
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