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Muligan

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I know there are plenty of boxers but I still never fail to find groups. Very rarely have I made contact with a boxer but that's because I know where they are and typically hunt where groups hunt. I did run into a guy who parked his alt outside of the group for some buffs in HHK but that's about it. I see boxers come through for MGB but I still rarely have issue with them in terms of them interfering with my gaming experience. Join a decent size guild and level with friends. I believe EQMac is still the best EQ1 experience out there. I hope that EQNext makes all of this irrelevant though...
 
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I multibox a whole group, I purposely keep out of everyones way because I don't want to ruin the experience for other people. For example, I have not once stepped foot in Highkeep, even though it's the best XP. I practically lived there in p99, but this time I levelled in other places.

But it suits me anyway, and it all fits in to place. I like to solo in dungeons, I used to do it by myself with one character in live. Now I get to do it a lot easier with my 6 box. But they also tend to be places that other people don't go - like mistmoore which is just too trainy and nasty for most people.
 

Muligan

Trakanon Raider
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That seems common. It makes sense too that boxers would go where they wouldn't be pestered by others or just so they can be to themselves and act at their own pace. Most of the people that I know that box seem to be very cordial in regards to not holding down popular exp spots.
 

Zacx_sl

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damn that is epic, nice work


what is up with your /who list tho

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Torrid

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Dunno, I get that sometimes. I would guess it has something to do with the PC hack and/or when a lot of data is sent to the client.
 
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Insane as usual, kinda wish I did an AE group instead of my usual 6 box. But not sure I could deal with the stress and having a full wipe would ruin my day. I can't kill mass quantities but I can snipe a named very easily and safely so I suppose that's something. But still... damn. Are you super rich and have lots of AA's now?
 

Leon

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The who list stuff happens even on the mac client. Sometimes you get random characters like that. As far as the GM tag for the vintage folks, they are labelled 'guild 0' on the server DB, which is usually reserved for GM or guide stuff. An interesting thing about this is that if we have a raid going in the same zone as some vintage folks (say, a GM event) they can sometimes read and type into our raid chat without being in the raid.
 

Jysin

Ahn'Qiraj Raider
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Torrid, what's your char name? Just trying to keep a FoH friend list as i grind through the levels. My char name is Jysin.

38 now. Zzzz...
 

Zacx_sl

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As far as the GM tag for the vintage folks, they are labelled 'guild 0' on the server DB, which is usually reserved for GM or guide stuff.
interesting, thanks for the info

which leads me to another question - why are there Vintage people in a Luclin zone?
last I know they haven't killed Vulak yet to 'progress'
 

Leon

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Can't say, i haven't played in a bit, but i would guess that AoW and Vulak was not part of the progression per say. AoW is kind of stupid in terms of velious progression, but doable if you had bodies to throw at it. Vulak ring is straight up a big no no, it was not designed for that era one bit!
 

Zacx_sl

shitlord
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Yeah wasn't the "Vulak Ring" event designed pretty much to stop people continuing to farm Vulak once Luclin was released because his loot was so good? Quite a silly thing because end result was nobody killing him which is a big shame...

anyway, I checked Vintage website and they haven't said anything about 'progressing' past Velious... so *shrug*
I doubt they will ever kill AoW / Vulak with the numbers they have
 

Friday

Lord Nagafen Raider
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I don't know. We did the Vulak ring and it was pretty easy on eqmac.

The hardest part is just sitting there for a few hours.
 

Lenas

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Yeah Vulak ring is way rougher than any other content in the Velious era. My guild was one of the first to complete it on Bertox years back but we were already progressing through lower tiers of PoP at that point.
 

Ukerric

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As far as the GM tag for the vintage folks, they are labelled 'guild 0' on the server DB, which is usually reserved for GM or guide stuff.
I remember that, on Sebilis (the french euro server created by Ubisoft to try to expand the market in france), my guild managed to get formed about about 1h after the server went up. We got that ID 0 guild, because the guides and GM hadn't got around to create theirs yet.
 

Torrid

Molten Core Raider
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Insane as usual, kinda wish I did an AE group instead of my usual 6 box. But not sure I could deal with the stress and having a full wipe would ruin my day. I can't kill mass quantities but I can snipe a named very easily and safely so I suppose that's something. But still... damn. Are you super rich and have lots of AA's now?
The number of AAs varies because I have 7 characters; I have one wiz and ench that are the priority of the two pairs, and I'd rather 5 man a group to maximize the Paladin's AA gains because hybrids need a lot more and I made him later. All but one have over 100, and the druid has over 150. I stayed 60 for a long time because the AA exp is better at that level, and not just because fungus grove is half light blue at 65. I've been doing some PoValor too; 5% AA a kill is pretty leet. Although I'm almost out of good Luclin AAs to get and you can only save 30.

I have 1.1 million platinum, and about 500k of that was from selling snare glands to Temerity and probably 200-300k was selling glands to Destiny. I haven't spent much of it because I'd rather earn my ornate myself. If I see some good deals on things I can't get like ele planes tradeskill junk or tormax loot I'll have to buy those.

And trying to get the largest pull I could on video was non-stop wipes for 3 days. It was almost an hour between attempts. I learned things to increase my success rate over time though, but there is ZERO room for error. I made a checklist after wiping from forgetting one thing too many times. That many mobs lags the client which is obviously bad when you need to chain stuns like that. Using mac clients might make it safer if the PC hack is causing the client lag behind the server. If I were to just farm it for real, I'd pull at most two caves at once.

One of my early attempts ended up with 123 kills but I screwed up the capture. I spent another full day trying to beat that. When I got the 126 kill video I was more than ready to stop. Not sure I'll do FG again.

Torrid, what's your char name? Just trying to keep a FoH friend list as i grind through the levels. My char name is Jysin.
Torven and Torrin are the characters I pay the most attention to, depending on what I'm doing at the time.
 
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Damn I'd love to try it. I just don't think I could cope. My PC for a start, it lags when I go to PoK with all my 6 guys. I expect once that insane AE stun spell spam starts happening, it would just lag too much and like you said, there's no margin for error. A slight delay and presumably people start dying and it all falls to pieces.

Fun to see someone else do it though
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I'm still having a lot of fun with my guys. I can only kill mobs one by one but I find that they sure die fast.. Because I have started nuking with all my characters, even cleric and chanter. So I lull or mez or whatever, and warrior pulls a single, then 5 nukes land and most mobs are dead instantly. The bigger mobs maybe take another one or two but still, easy peasy. So it feels nice to be so safe and secure, even in a dungeon.

Can't wait to see how it works once I take on Kunark because I seem to remember that everything jumps up a difficulty level once you get there. Although I spent a lot of time at the Wyverns in Cobalt Scar and those were ok, as long as I only fought them in singles.
 

Torrid

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I use 3 physical machines to box like that. It wouldn't work on one box because the EQ client is so old that it gets user input in some archaic way which does not allow for the sending of input to background windows. If you use boxing or macro software, you have to tell the OS to bring the window you want to send input to into focus first before sending commands, and then wait again after sending a command before bringing another window to focus. These delays are significant enough that they would cause delays prior to casting color stuns. Even my using 3 physical machines instead of giving enchanters dedicated boxes makes it slightly more dangerous.

You might get around that limitation by using VMs for every client, but that would be a huge PITA and difficult to setup at the very least. Also this client does not play well with other clients on the same processor core, as the game uses up the entire core no matter what is on screen or where you are, because back then the game was assumed to be the only thing running on the machine (it disabled alt-tab even) so they didn't concern themselves with resource usage. (that and Sony's coders weren't in Blizzard's league, sorry to say) As far as I can tell, EQ is extremely CPU limited, and all the frame lag is from that and not slow GPUs.

I saw that Zamiel made some sort of macintosh multi-client manger software that probably makes boxing on macs a better experience now.
 
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Yeah the CPU usage is nuts. I spent a long time looking for a working version of EQPlayNice but in the end, I couldn't find it. The older versions did nothing and the newer versions had all kinds of other stuff bundled together, and even that didn't work. I think because it's not true EQ, it's a haxored version of the Mac version so too many steps removed from the real thing.

For now I just use dxtory to limit the frame rate and that works ok. Happy with my current 6 box anyway, its pretty intense running dungeons by myself and playing all the roles. But it's so much more fun and involving than just playing one character. I don't think I could ever go back to 1 character unless it was an amazing class in some future game.