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DickTrickle

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Big Phoenix said:
Hes way overselling it and its cringed. FO3 had a universally panned ending at launch. Best part of it was the commie hating nuke throwing robot.

Also this is going to be awful. Its going to be yet another IP skinjob used to push some globohomo's political retardation.
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He didn't even talk about the ending. It sold nearly 13 million copies back in the day so it was a huge success. There's no way most of those people disliked it when FNV sold similar numbers. Even people who dislike the ending typically still liked the game, especially if you were asking their opinion before FNV. So, it feels pretty disingenuous on your part to think no one could have such a strong reaction to the game. Could he be making that up to garner gamer support? Sure, but it's still plausible.

That quote by the showrunner is pretty goddamn naive, though. If NZ and Canada started letting everyone in without restrictions, it wouldn't stay that same way, obviously.

Still, in the trailer, we see scenes where the Vault clearly goes haywire, but unclear if it's the protagonist's vault or somewhere else,. Still, it doesn't seem like the show is going to shy away from vault craziness.
 
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Based on context, the Vault where people were murdering each other is the protagonist's Vault based on the numbers on their suits. However, the newest trailer showed that the blonde teaser trailer lady who had a fork in her eye and was firing a SMG had gauze and tape over that same eye and was acting normally. So that makes me think that whatever the fuck was going on in the haywire situation "resolved" itself to some degree given that she received medical care.

For all we know, they are an experiment vault vs. a control vault. Maybe their water gets spiked once a year with some hyper aggressive drug and everyone starts murdering each other. The protagonist leaving the vault suggests they're looking to either escape that situation or resolve it. We know her father is the overseer of the vault, so he would be privy to more information on the vault than the general inhabitants.

As for the FO3 ending, it's not my favorite given that you go and seemingly die and the game forces you to do it (going as so far to have the super mutant say "nah bro, its your destiny" when you ask him to do it instead), although at least the DLC undid that. Although FO3 still ended more or less open ended for the most part.
 
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Yeah Fallout 3 Broken Steel fixes a lot of the crap. It’s the only way to play it.
 
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Broken Steel was great and that railgun or whatever it was you got on the BoS base was badass.
 
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Amazing, both of you watched the entire series a month before it came out!
 
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Cybsled said:
Amazing, both of you watched the entire series a month before it came out!
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Yea it's not like Hollywood has a track record of fucking up legacy IPs with woke bullshit or anything.
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I'm hoping for the best, but expecting the worst. These people are just way too predictable now.
 
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DickTrickle

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Cybsled said:
Amazing, both of you watched the entire series a month before it came out!
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You didn't know? If it's not a romantic comedy for women or a Madea film for black people, black or female leads mean 100% guaranteed wokeness.
 
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There's more radioactive ghouls in the leading cast than straight white men! I AINT EVEN MET A GHOUL IN REAL LIFE!

WOKE AS HELL!
 
hory

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I don't understand why people try to defend new television productions as "it's not woke bro, just wait and see" or "yeah it's woke but not to bad, they only changed 40 percent of the original story"

It's in the fucking studios mandates that the show be woke to the point of nausea. They're contractually obligated to alter any story line to promote poc, shit on classic values, and ensure 3 gays and trans people get screen time sucking face.
 
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I don't understand why people try to defend new television productions as "it's not woke bro, just wait and see" or "yeah it's woke but not to bad, they only changed 40 percent of the original story"

It's in the fucking studios mandates that the show be woke to the point of nausea. They're contractually obligated to alter any story line to promote poc, shit on classic values, and ensure 3 gays and trans people get screen time sucking face.
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Once award shows changed their eligibility requirements, that was pretty much the end of that. Studios have no say.

No creative is going to make something that is eligible for no awards.

No actor will act in a production that he knows will be ineligible for any award.

People are just slow on the uptake and ramifications of the award show changes.

The big picture "woke agenda" isn't as much of the sticking point as the award eligibility requirements. The award requirements ensure that nothing will ever be truly woke free ever again-- besides very tiny productions made for the armpit of streaming with little to no budget. Anything that matters with any type of budget has to conform to what the award shows said is the minimum requirement to receive a nomination for an award.
 
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hory said:
I don't understand why people try to defend new television productions as "it's not woke bro, just wait and see" or "yeah it's woke but not to bad, they only changed 40 percent of the original story"
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It makes zero sense.

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Amazon's 'Fallout' Director Says It Would Have Been "A Fool's Errand" For Series To Try And Appeal To Fans: "I Don't Think You Really Can Set Out To Please The Fans Of Anything"

Amazon's 'Fallout' series director Jonathan Nolan believes that "it's a fool's errand to try to figure out how to make people happy."
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Cybsled

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Not sure what is controversial about that statement about trying to make everyone happy. He's right - you can't. That linked article even points out the whole Bethesda Fallout vs. old 2D Fallout fan spats. This very forum highlights that shit constantly
 
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jayrebb said:
Once award shows changed their eligibility requirements, that was pretty much the end of that. Studios have no say.

No creative is going to make something that is eligible for no awards.

No actor will act in a production that he knows will be ineligible for any award.

People are just slow on the uptake and ramifications of the award show changes.

The big picture "woke agenda" isn't as much of the sticking point as the award eligibility requirements. The award requirements ensure that nothing will ever be truly woke free ever again-- besides very tiny productions made for the armpit of streaming with little to no budget. Anything that matters with any type of budget has to conform to what the award shows said is the minimum requirement to receive a nomination for an award.
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I thought you could meet those requirements behind the scenes with roles that are not actually on film, ie for a period piece, or some artsy shit that takes place in a single room with one actor.
 
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Drinsic said:
I thought you could meet those requirements behind the scenes with roles that are not actually on film, ie for a period piece, or some artsy shit that takes place in a single room with one actor.
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Definitely depends on the award. Some awards have their own requirements. A guy in a room can't go up for Best Picture AFAIK. Of course big streaming companies like Amazon wouldn't change anything about their policies regardless if award shows did or didn't change requirements.

Funny moment was Mads Mikkelsen shoulder rolling that reporter for pointing out his movie would be eligible for no award(s), like he gave a fuck.
 
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Cybsled said:
Not sure what is controversial about that statement about trying to make everyone happy. He's right - you can't. That linked article even points out the whole Bethesda Fallout vs. old 2D Fallout fan spats. This very forum highlights that shit constantly
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You can't make everyone happy, so fuck the core fans and just do whatever one wants personally or that aligns with social agendas and ideology and when anyone complains just give some empty adage about not being able to make everyone happy and move on to be allowed to shit on some new fan base.

And why wouldn't they? There are always bitch boys that will defend anything these idiots say, no matter how generic, banal or retarded.
 
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LOL you boomers crack me up. As if the very first Fallout wasn't "woke" by your retarded standards nowadays.

It was the first game to feature a "same sex" marriage and the ENTIRE message/premise of the game is that ultra consumerism, unfettered capitalism, mega corps, and over consumption lead to the resource wars, which then lead to the "Great War" and the destruction of America/World. Tim Cain is literally a raging homo IRL. Two of New Vegas' companions are fags. Hell, you can even argue that the "best" ending in that game is with a group of Anarchist Socialists.

Fallout has always been "progressive".
 
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Kirun said:
LOL you boomers crack me up. As if the very first Fallout wasn't "woke" by your retarded standards nowadays.

It was the first game to feature a "same sex" marriage and the ENTIRE message/premise of the game is that ultra consumerism, unfettered capitalism, mega corps, and over consumption lead to the resource wars, which then lead to the "Great War" and the destruction of America/World. Tim Cain is literally a raging homo IRL. Two of New Vegas' companions are fags. Hell, you can even argue that the "best" ending in that game is with a group of Anarchist Socialists.

Fallout has always been "progressive".
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I don't remember any same sex relationship in Fallout 1, but you may be thinking of Fallout 2, which Tim Cain had little involvement in.

Bethesda might have made Fallout retarded, but, yea, they didn't really increase the gay that much. At least in the parts of the Beth games I saw, before quitting those shit shows.

Of course the Fallout Wiki has a page on LBGQTRANNY representation and is kinda grasping at straws for FO1:
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LGBT representation in the Fallout series

Fallout has been a landmark series in the discussion surrounding LGBTQ+ representation in video games and science fiction. Over the past quarter century, the setting has grown more diverse and inclusive, as each major installment has offered some kind of unprecedented LGBTQ+ representation. The...
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popsicledeath

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Look, look I'm one of these assholes that is going to argue against "you boomers" but not quote anyone or argue against any actual points so I can just generalize about how other people are wrong about the things I'm not specifying which makes me right about things I'm generalizing.

Which, ironically, is actually the boomerest thing in the world.
 
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Kirun said:
LOL you boomers crack me up. As if the very first Fallout wasn't "woke" by your retarded standards nowadays.

It was the first game to feature a "same sex" marriage and the ENTIRE message/premise of the game is that ultra consumerism, unfettered capitalism, mega corps, and over consumption lead to the resource wars, which then lead to the "Great War" and the destruction of America/World. Tim Cain is literally a raging homo IRL. Two of New Vegas' companions are fags. Hell, you can even argue that the "best" ending in that game is with a group of Anarchist Socialists.

Fallout has always been "progressive".
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You act like the vast majority of the people on this forum give two shits about any of the things you bring up. The main issue is that for the past half decade or so this sort of woke signaling has universally meant that the story and characters are an afterthought as long as they can squeeze in the right politics. I think that everyone in this thread would love to be proven wrong and get a show that takes the universe as seriously as it took itself in the games; and there are some glimmers of hope in Goggins' trailer scenes where he might feel remorse/guilt about selling VaultTech to the country and think his punishment of becoming a ghoul is deserved. That may be reading too much into it, but that is because they have huge amounts of fertile ground to work with and it could be good.

But again, the problem with woke is that it hasn't produced anything worth a shit since it became a trend. Fuck, Six Feet Under was out and proud and liberal but the story and characters were GREAT so mostly no one gave a shit. But that was a few decades ago now and the writers/writing rooms just seem to be fucking awful now.
 
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