Fear the Walking Dead

I don't get why you guys are shocked at how the military guys are acting. These guys are taking daily patrols where they are killing American citizens by the fucking truckload. That would desensitize anyone pretty quickly.

Arcaus_sl said:

I don't get why you guys are shocked at how the military guys are acting. These guys are taking daily patrols where they are killing American citizens by the fucking truckload. That would desensitize anyone pretty quickly.

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I'm not buying that they'd do that in the first place. Zombified ones yes, but civilians that can still talk? There's more than 10 million people living in that area, right? And 12 safe zones with maybe a thousand people in them in total. So they're just gunning down MILLIONS of their own people?

The majority of them have turned or are super antagonistic. Look at all the fuckers in Baltimore. Now imagine that instead of the riots in Baltimore being about black people, it's about people getting eaten. I think this show did a good job of showing the tension between cops and civilians several times. It only takes one spark before that hits the next level. I don't think they've killed millions yet. That will be when the bombs get dropped which I assume is the season finale.

They should have just used the phrase for the show as , The only way to save mankind, is to kill it.

Arcaus_sl said:

The majority of them have turned or are super antagonistic. Look at all the fuckers in Baltimore. Now imagine that instead of the riots in Baltimore being about black people, it's about people getting eaten. I think this show did a good job of showing the tension between cops and civilians several times. It only takes one spark before that hits the next level. I don't think they've killed millions yet. That will be when the bombs get dropped which I assume is the season finale.

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The problem is that their strategy makes 0 sense in light of their behavior. I mean, I understand its a TV show and contrived for the purposes of the drama, but it should still make sense. If their intention is the "cleanse" the city of the infection by going block-by-block, house-by-house... why establish random "safe zones" that cover a few blocks of suburbs with a random composition of citizens who could be criminals or likely to harbor the infected. Not like these people were protected because of their importance to the government or society... or the area happened to contain some pieces of critical infrastructure... was just total random.

To me, it would have made more sense to establish "safe zones" waaaaay outside the cities that operate precisely like modern day refugee camps, then screen people for illness at the entry and deny anyone with bites or other signs of illness (due to not knowing the nature of the illness). That way, everyone that chose to stay in the city were doing so at their own risk of being killed in the effort to cleanse. It probably would have made for great TV too as it would be an interesting juxtaposition with things like WWII Japanese Interment camps and the other refugee environments of modern times... kind of like the prison in TWD.

To me it felt like they were choosing the camps by random areas that actually had people in them to protect. I can't remember from the first couple of episodes, was the house they are in now in a gated community?

Arcaus_sl said:

To me it felt like they were choosing the camps by random areas that actually had people in them to protect. I can't remember from the first couple of episodes, was the house they are in now in a gated community?

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Certainly didn't look like it. Seems that they had a lot of arbitrary chainlink fences and baracades running through the middle of some streets. In the beginning of the episode, while the kid was on the roof, he talked about the surrounding neighborhoods being haphazardly evacuated by throwing people on buses and taking them to "Bakersfield or wherever".

The main characters are a teacher, school counselor... low middle class. Certainly not "gated community material" imo. Just seems like random suburbs that helped the story narrative.

I have no idea what property is like in the outskirts of LA. I know in CT you can certainly live in a gated community making 110k+ a year combined (assuming they don't have summer jobs). The chain link fence is certainly a new addition, I was just curious if there was already a random wall of some sort. I don't remember either way on it.

Debase_sl said:

The problem is that their strategy makes 0 sense in light of their behavior. I mean, I understand its a TV show and contrived for the purposes of the drama, but it should still make sense. If their intention is the "cleanse" the city of the infection by going block-by-block, house-by-house... why establish random "safe zones" that cover a few blocks of suburbs with a random composition of citizens who could be criminals or likely to harbor the infected. Not like these people were protected because of their importance to the government or society... or the area happened to contain some pieces of critical infrastructure... was just total random.

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Maybe their strategy is like the Redeker plan from WWZ. They aren't safe zones so much as BAIT zones.

Arcaus_sl said:

I have no idea what property is like in the outskirts of LA. I know in CT you can certainly live in a gated community making 110k+ a year combined (assuming they don't have summer jobs). The chain link fence is certainly a new addition, I was just curious if there was already a random wall of some sort. I don't remember either way on it.

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Seems odd to have a gated community and still have prison bars on the windows. But maybe LA is just that shitty.

I mean, they have tar pits so it's not like it's a super nice place to live.

Lets not forget so far in FTWD these zombies still look like crazy as fuck people they are not all decomposing corpseswalkingaround missing half their faces like TWD.

Early infection is difficult because people can look somewhat normal until you get closer. We also have to remember they don't know how the zombie virus spreads beyond biting. For all they know, if a zombie breathes on you, you get some airborne zombie flu. That is why they hauled that one guy away that almost got grabbed by the zombie. He wasn't actually harmed by the zombie, but they still understand very little of what can cause a person to turn. The fact the kill squads were in full hazmat gear with respirators/gasmasks supports this. For all we know, that is what they have been told.

In that light, it makes it more likely that soldiers would be willing to use lethal force, because in their eyes a person in the contaminated zones may be already "dead" due to possible infection from a hypothetical airborne pathogen.

Which, as it turns out is, actually correct. They don't know it for certain yet, but do have reasons to suspect it.

Seeing as the disease was intially spread something similar to a cold, non-bit people were getting it.

I think the show could have had a character (or 2 ) who is in the military and we could then see the moral issues that they would surely be going through. It would be something worth showing.

Yeah I think people are forgetting that these guys have no idea what is happening. We live in a relatively safe world so it wouldn't be my first instinct when I see someone lumbering towards me making weird sounds to think about taking a hammer to their skull. With everything I know about death it wouldn't make completely sense to me to see people who I know are dead suddenly rising. There is a ton of things that would be downright confusing and contradictory towards normal beliefs.

Meh

Some good parts in that last episode but holy shit does it move slow. Also doesnt help i really cant stomach his son. Hes even harder to stomach since we have another kid about his age, drug addict, who can actually do acting. I just hate the kid and all the scenes hes in, even with the bimbo.

Sorry i dont know any of the characters names still and next episode is season finale already. Guess that says something.

edit: i mean look at his imdb pic.