Final Fantasy: Brave Exvius

Sinzar said:

I really hope this Gilgamesh trial is as cutting edge as everyone is making it sound, because until this point, everything in game is trivialized by one single whale'ed dps unit, whether it's your own or a friends.

If Gilgamesh truly is "an hour+ long marathon fight" like JP players say, then Emperor (along with Olives -50% fire debuff) will actually be insanely good, dealing 3000% damage per round for free (he out-regens the cost), assuming he doesn't die to AoE damage because mage. If the people on reddit are full of shit and Gilgamesh dies in 5 rounds to whaled dps like all content so far, then team comp will matter a lot less.

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My first Gilgamesh kill took me about 3 hours iirc. Most of that was a mix of my party not being very well optimized for the fight and me constantly stopping to read other stuff, but you also lose a huge amount of damage without a 6th party member. He really does have absurdly high defensive stats, I think people are going to be in for a rude awakening when they find out how much sustain you actually need to keep going if a fight lasts longer than 4-5 turns.

It's also incredibly likely that he will be buffed for GL. My guess is that he gets another 500k/1m hps.

Ao- said:

As sparkle said... there's been a lot of talk about Gilg being buffed in GL (which is odd, but sort of fits with the fucked up status of GL compared to straight JP).

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Yes but Emperor sustain in this case will not be useful. There is a stupid high chance of a reset due to a death.
I'll wait to see what Nazta mines to determine what party I will take.

Worst part is Emperor covers an Element which Rain takes.

I believe I've seen you guys referencing some bosses having immunities to certain type breaks (mag/def/attack/spir). Are there any that are immune to elemental resist debuffs? Or just ones with really high resists so ele debuffs just reduce those high %'s but do actually take effect?

Hmm rethinking this abit as I rematch game of thrones.....I have just enough mats to get Firion to 6 star.

I can go lightning with Excalibur + a spear + her ele abilities to cover 3 elements
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Firion with Mercedes Axe (water) + Kaiser Fist (wind)
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Emp for DC to cover eles when ST kills someone and fire from below spam for normal rounds for good sustained damage

I can throw an element on Refia & Cecil for emergency fills. So that gives me a friend most likely Noctis who also will cover elements and general fill support. Seems like a pretty solid way to cover the seals effectively while maintaining a pretty strong amount of damage. Just not sure how I feel about wasting time/mat's on Firion as they are still abit limited to me with a lot of people still to raise for niche needs. As soon as Olive finishes her TM she will probably stay my finisher when running chains so Firion seems abit of a waste of resources outside of this trial. Guess I can try it with a different team and if it proves a challenge I can get him leveled up fast enough (should have just enough to get him to 6 star max).

Edit - Also just hit my damn 100th win in arena since I had a few previous "oops switched to 1 man team's before I knew you could set teams specific). Ironically....100th match and of course I fucking accidently click on the #5 ranked top guy in global and he goes first and fucking stops half my team first round and lays a fairly big beat down on me. Thank god for Olive's mortar turning the fight for me and cecil cover keeping my 200 hp Emp alive the last round to just sneak out the win haha. Man that would have been a fucking major derpa derpa.

turbo said:

Emp for DC to cover eles when ST kills someone and fire from below spam for normal rounds for good sustained damage

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Something to keep in mind about ramp up spells, is that if you take any action whatsoever aside from casting your Fires from Below every round, the entire damage stack resets. That includes things like counterattacks (if Emperor wears Ring of Lucii for example). If someone's dead and Emperor has to step in to seal an element, then you gotta do what you gotta do, but you want to try to minimize that when possible for the big damage.

You don't have to seal every element if you have a plan to deal with them. My idea for my team currently will be ignoring both Earth and Holy elements and using other methods to deal with those attacks.

Kind of a noob question, but I wanted to make sure I was understanding this correctly. Do Firion/Noctis/etc weapon passives stack? So I'm assuming you always want to DW and equip two different types of weapons to maximize ATK bonus, right? So equipping two of the same type does not double the passive bonus. Not that I have the materia to test it, but would Blade Mastery be better, in this case, than 30% ATK? Or does Blade Mastery not stack with their passive bonuses?

Tiphares said:

Kind of a noob question, but I wanted to make sure I was understanding this correctly. Do Firion/Noctis/etc weapon passives stack? So I'm assuming you always want to DW and equip two different types of weapons to maximize ATK bonus, right? So equipping two of the same type does not double the passive bonus. Not that I have the materia to test it, but would Blade Mastery be better, in this case, than 30% ATK? Or does Blade Mastery not stack with their passive bonuses?

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Yes they stack You need to utilize different weapon types.

Are we expecting Agrias to get her 6* upgrade with the upcoming FFT banner? If so, how is she without enhancements?

Ether said:

Are we expecting Agrias to get her 6* upgrade with the upcoming FFT banner? If so, how is she without enhancements?

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She is trash until 6*/Enhancements. Please keep in mind that Agrias is treated as a 5* base for the purposes of her Enhancements. This means she is stupid expensive so there is a good chance you will want to spend them on a 5* base instead.

Her 6* is part of the 3rd FFT Banner (Knight Delita, Mercenary Ramza, 6* Agrias, 6* Gafgarion)

Vinen said:

She is trash until 6*/Enhancements. Please keep in mind that Agrias is treated as a 5* base for the purposes of her Enhancements. This means she is stupid expensive so there is a good chance you will want to spend them on a 5* base instead.

Her 6* is part of the 3rd FFT Banner (Knight Delita, Mercenary Ramza, 6* Agrias, 6* Gafgarion)

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Well that's disappointing. I was hoping to use my two Agrias' as chain builders with my very hopeful future Orlandu friend Orlandu. Surely the Orlandu banner is coming next month, right? What's the best way to chain with him? Anyone with holy weapons and good chaining attacks?

Also, what currency is used for enhancements? How hard are they to obtain?

Ether said:

Well that's disappointing. I was hoping to use my two Agrias' as chain builders with my very hopeful future Orlandu friend Orlandu. Surely the Orlandu banner is coming next month, right? What's the best way to chain with him? Anyone with holy weapons and good chaining attacks?

Also, what currency is used for enhancements? How hard are they to obtain?

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IIRC the "larger gem" (NFI what it's called) costs 70-100K of event currency.

Agrias takes 2 of this per rank.

聖光爆裂破 Holy Explosion 200% ST 5 Hit Physical Attack + Ignore 50% DEF & ST 3 Turn -50% Light Resist 38 1000000 Gil 攻め / 晶石 x20, 中晶石 x15, 大晶石 x10, 超晶石 x4, 神晶石 x2
聖光爆裂破 Holy Explosion 200% ST 7 Hit Physical Attack + Ignore 50% DEF & ST 3 Turn -50% Light Resist 45 1000000 Gil 攻め / 晶石 x30, 中晶石 x23, 大晶石 x15, 超晶石 x8, 神晶石 x2

Gavinmad can probably provide more information.

Keep in mind that enhancements are at least 6 months out based on content release projections for GL. Hopefully I have several mil gil by then. My gil stash is not progressing as quickly as I would like. Cactuar levelling gets pretty expensive without a growth egg. F2P problems...

Tiphares said:

Keep in mind that enhancements are at least 6 months out based on content release projections for GL. Hopefully I have several mil gil by then. My gil stash is not progressing as quickly as I would like. Cactuar levelling gets pretty expensive without a growth egg. F2P problems...

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Cactuar does not get modified by Growth Egg / Nine TMR.

Maxxed out a Leon to help me with arena but sadly since I lack TMRs I can't get his ATK high enough to hit 999 with Phantom. Even with Man Eater he's only hitting 500-600.

Kriptini said:

Maxxed out a Leon to help me with arena but sadly since I lack TMRs I can't get his ATK high enough to hit 999 with Phantom. Even with Man Eater he's only hitting 500-600.

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I still use CoD with the Thorned Mace in arena. She does not have any TMR equipped and with Odin, she's at almost 500 ATK and hits for 999 most of the time; except for maybe high armor or cover units, aka Cecil.

Tiphares said:

I still use CoD with the Thorned Mace in arena. She does not have any TMR equipped and with Odin, she's at almost 500 ATK and hits for 999 most of the time; except for maybe high armor or cover units, aka Cecil.

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Yeah Bladeblitz is good, but Leon's Phantom is special because it actually hits twice, so you could theoretically do 999 x2 without Dual Wield or 999 x4 with Dual Wield.

So if I put camo on my emp with his innate Insolent Fools ability, will that make him untargetable for the ST insta kill? If so that will help reduce fire from below resets, as long as I can keep elements under control which with a good noctis friend + lightning I should have solid coverage along with Cecil/Refia back ups I still think emp will play a great role in doing significant amount of damage for the fight....then again I might just be extremely jaded since I have 5 of him staring at me from 5 pulls and want him to be the hero! Wish I would have finished Dark F's and twin Emp TM's and he would really be raping. Just finished my 2nd excaliber and almost done with 2nd DW with Olive's TM and a 2nd BM @ 60% as well so my melee team will have a very strong setup.

Kriptini said:

Yeah Bladeblitz is good, but Leon's Phantom is special because it actually hits twice, so you could theoretically do 999 x2 without Dual Wield or 999 x4 with Dual Wield.

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Sounds good, but I don't know if you'll ever get there. At *5 his base ATK is only 113 so ATK +10% is almost the same as equipping a Hyper Wrist. Maybe a Man Eater bonus from Diabolos will help, but I still don't think it will be enough. There is also the Star Quartz Man Eater for 200.

Tiphares said:

Sounds good, but I don't know if you'll ever get there. At *5 his base ATK is only 113 so ATK +10% is almost the same as equipping a Hyper Wrist. Maybe a Man Eater bonus from Diabolos will help, but I still don't think it will be enough. There is also the Star Quartz Man Eater for 200.

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I got him to about 300 Atk with Man Eater and was only able to do 500-600 per hit.