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Malakriss

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They will likely add in a dungeon mechanic where aggro on one person causes aggro on an entire group. But if they ever do make Arcanist rezz a cross-class ability then a Black Mage would be able to get around that with a quick death and rezz by the healer before the other 3 all go down.
 
Pyros

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That being said its a 100% exploit using an in game mechanic to by pass content not meant to be bypassed.
The Japanese are also very serious about banning accounts, and this is a very easy thing for them to detect.

The same exploit existed in Neverwinter, and allot of people were given 3 days suspensions for it.
The Difference being the Japanese rarely suspend an account, they will just outright ban you.

I would love to see a video of a group doing this. I can see how they got to the first 2 bosses, but the amount of one shotting succubus ,casters, and the 4 pull at the lasts boss door would make it very difficult for you to do this rez trick.
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Can't find the link quickly but there was a twitch video of it like a few days ago already on bluegartr forums. I don't know about bans, it's not actually exploiting to me, it looks like normal use of shitty mechanics. As for the last part, you know, you don't run in the circles, it's really not that hard. Also pop some cooldowns on the way. The mobs don't really come close to one shotting anything otherwise you wouldn't even be able to kill them the normal way.
 
Pyros

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Malakriss_sl said:
They will likely add in a dungeon mechanic where aggro on one person causes aggro on an entire group. But if they ever do make Arcanist rezz a cross-class ability then a Black Mage would be able to get around that with a quick death and rezz by the healer before the other 3 all go down.
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They're not making an incombat rez a cross class ability. That said quickcast is cross class, both Scholars and Summoners can quick cast incombat rez, so what you said can already be done, let the tank die first if PLD then quick cast rez him, die, he takes the rez after and rez people. Also work with a SMN with a WAR tank, just have the healer heal the tank to die first from aggroing everything and rez him. Only issue is running no SMN and WAR tank as the SCH can't insta rez anyone who can actually spell rez. Phoenix Down items though, but not sure they're farmable. They'd need to fix rezing when the rezer is dead for it to work as a fix.
 
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I would think the hardest part would be the 4 mobs right on top of the last boss. I'd have to see the video to see how they LOS'ed that last pack.
Do you remember the streamers name?

I don't know about bans, it's not actually exploiting to me, it looks like normal use of shitty mechanics.
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And this is where it doesn't matter what we think, it only matters what the devs think. I would agree normal use of shitty mechanics is what has made some games really cool if the devs allow them to grow with the game.

I have no clue what SE would think about a group doing this I'm just looking at the history of other MMO's with the same exploit. They always suspend for it.
Personally to me there's no point taking that chance. Especially since everyone will be raid ready by the time they patch those in.
 
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Probably something really easy, but when Im healing in parties how do I make it just show HP instead of all the other stuff cluttering up the party bars? Is there a way to do that?
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No, we will have to wait for SE to allow addons to get rid of all the bloat. Wait till you're 50, and have to decurse a group when the buff limit on the bar only allows 5 buffs/debuffs.
You will not be able to see any debuffs. You will just have to guess based on HP spikes.

I think the funniest thing they did was people complained that they couldn't see there dots on a target because they all stack. There answer was to make the timer on your debuffs come out as green.
So if you are color blind you are fucked haha.
 
Nija

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Literally every level 50 in the Gilg FC is doing that dungeon without trash right now. We're basically done if they ban.
 
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Malakriss_sl said:
They will likely add in a dungeon mechanic where aggro on one person causes aggro on an entire group. But if they ever do make Arcanist rezz a cross-class ability then a Black Mage would be able to get around that with a quick death and rezz by the healer before the other 3 all go down.
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As Pyros said, that's already easy to get around with a paladin or a summoner in the group. We did it many times last night in a WAR/DRG/SCH/SMN group when aggro didn't go exactly as planned.

All they need to do is lock the doors and make sure there's no safe spots to stop anywhere near the key-dropper. They should go ahead and make the cutscenes in the story dungeons unskippable too!
 
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Literally every level 50 in the Gilg FC is doing that dungeon without trash right now. We're basically done if they ban.
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And SE will ban you for a hole in their game, no doubt. Maybe with all of the server hell they have going on, they'll overlook this or not see it.
 
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Seriously , do they not have someone , someone , at SE with a fucking ounce of common sense when it comes to infrastructure and simple UI mechanics of the game. Not talking about in game mechanics ,art design , etc , just the shell part of the game.

Leaving aside the pure idiocy of not having a normal queue , and going the 1017 route , how, HOW , the fuck did they design it where it pauses for a good 20 seconds at the character selection to make sure I know the FUCKING JAPANESE SERVERS CANT BE CONTACTED.

/face palm

Genuinely surprised again at how people get in positions to be allowed to make these kinds of decisions in large scale projects like this. I shouldn't be I know , but still , this is just beyond stupid on their part.

And Yoshi can apologize all he wants , they have fucking idiots on the infrastructure team.
 
AladainAF

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So between repairs and materia crafting is shoved down our throats. I did not sign up to do faggy ass crafting. I HATE It. It's doing WORK to play a GAME. Why do people think this is such a great idea? Some people love it, great. Go craft. Don't get your crafting union buddies together and bitch until the game all but requires it.
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It's not shoved down your throats, but it's rather inconvenient because your alternative is to hire a crafter to do it for you or pay high NPC bills. hiring a crafter is easy though. I believe all you have to do is right click your gear and "request repair", and you get an icon by your name that tells other crafters "fix my shit". Several crafters on this board have said "hey give us mats (or let us buy them from you) that drop, and we'll do whatever". It helps us level up. Then we can repair, and slot materia for you.

Do I need a certain level crafter to repair all the way up to 50? Does any crafting class work? Do I have to gather the crap to repair? Do I only need to be 19 to insert materia all the way to 50? What is the best crafting bot on the market so I don't have to touch this shit myself? What crafting/gathering combo requires the least amount of cross-class bullshit so I don't have to level something I hate five times?
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You don't have to do anything, but someone needs to be available to do it for you. There's an entire interface available for it. In the event of materia, you need to have the mats which you can buy off the AH or get yourself. In the event of repairs, you can buy those only from the vendor I think, but I believe the crafter uses their mats for it.

FWIW, its a hell of a lot easier to deal with in ARR than 1.0. In 1.0 not only did you need the generic vendor mat, but you needed actual crafted only tradeskill pieces. They took that out.

I can pinpoint exactly when I started to turn against WoW. It was the day they put in bullshit PVE buffs for having a max tradeskill. That or the day they changed them all and I had to spend something like 70% of my gold switching tradeskills to the new hotness because fucking hardmodes.
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Again, FWIW, I'm not by any means a fanboy, but it is what it is. Unless they change it, if it's something you flat out just don't want to deal with then bring it up in square and quit. I mean, it's nothing we can help right now. I agree it's somewhat convoluted, and we'll see where they are going with it, but I think a lot of things with this game didn't go the way SE planned -- from server issues to the amount people progressed. Their fault on it, but again it is what it is. All people like me, who really enjoy crafting can say is "hey, shoot us some of your mats you get dropped and we'll skill up and be available to repair shit for you."

I suspect what they will do later is have a self-repair kit type reward from a leve or something.

edit: also if you want to make money, go farm crafting mats. People are gouging others for hundreds and hundreds per item. Diremite Web was selling for 600G each Friday and I was able to farm 100 of them in an hour being only level 33 with no AEs.
 
AladainAF

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Banemites are all I've seen. Aldgoat leather is also pretty good, but it's a little lower level.

Check markets first before doing it -- last I checked was friday, but they were going for lots of money. People also made a lot selling shards, which boggles me, but I havent looked at the prices of that yet.
 
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