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Flight

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FF online has never been mainly about end game. There are a dozen dungeons below lvl 50 that are fun to do on different classes/jobs. Agree with everybody who said that Fates have ruined the game for a lot of people and that's definitely SEs fault, though.

Making a boring grind of running around tapping mobs in Fates by far the fastest XP is a major, major fuck up.
 

Korrupt

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I'm still having plenty of fun playing this, met a lot of awesome new buddies and most of us seem to be sticking around. I haven't even touched crafting which seems different the way I hear Mala and Zp talk about it all night. Since we're always seem to be short 1 healer we're for sure not burning out on BC doing it 1-2x a week.

The level 50 situation is abysmal honestly, just thinking about AK or CM makes me cringe. The pvp patch shitshow should have been out on release the same as the additional dungeons and primals.
 

Mures

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Why would anyone in this day still expect an mmo to have enough end game content at launch for the gamer who plays 25+ hours a week? None ever have and none ever will, and that is never going to change because why cater to 2% of the gaming population?
 

Vandyn

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Why would anyone in this day still expect an mmo to have enough end game content at launch for the gamer who plays 25+ hours a week? None ever have and none ever will, and that is never going to change because why cater to 2% of the gaming population?
You don't need to play 25+ hours a week to hit endgame in this game. At this point, with average playtime (maybe 10 hours a week), you would hit endgame if you leveled your main and did nothing else by now and it's only been a month. If you make the journey from 1-50 fast to the point where the average player is hitting cap before the sub runs out, you better have stuff to do at 50 and not fall back on 'make an alt and grind fates' or 'grind that one dungeon'.
 

Syia_sl

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Why would anyone in this day still expect an mmo to have enough end game content at launch for the gamer who plays 25+ hours a week? None ever have and none ever will, and that is never going to change because why cater to 2% of the gaming population?
It's less about the top 2% of players, and more about the top 20% of players needing things to do. There are plenty of non hardcore people at 50 already.
 

Mures

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I think you're highly over estimating 20% of the game's entire population being at end game. And I'm positive people complaining about grinding one dungeon the past week hasn't only played the game 10 hours a week.
 

TrollfaceDeux

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enjoying crafting and gathering like crazy. leveling everything at the same time is a great experience. Once in a while, I would join with a new group to get fucked and appreciate how much i prefer crafting compared to dungeons/instances.
 

Korrupt

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Do you normally craft in mmo's Elle? Im allergic as fuck to it but my guildies who started this week are into it and they normally hate it in most games like me.
 

TrollfaceDeux

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Do you normally craft in mmo's Elle? Im allergic as fuck to it but my guildies who started this week are into it and they normally hate it in most games like me.
No, meh. like many other guildies, i just started last week and it took awhile to get into it but it gets better somehow. not powerleveling though, so my experience may not be the same as other hardcore crafters.
 

Muligan

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I think it is hilarious that people are rushing to the top in a month or less expecting this massive amount of content when it is blatantly obvious the majority of the content is currently in the middle. You pretty well ordered a burger, asked for all your favorite toppings, dressings,whatever and then decided to eat each end of the bun tossed the rest aside and complained how much the burger sucked.

If you went into FF disregarding quests, storylines, FATEs, tradeskilling, dungeon crawling, guild heists, levequests, multi-classing, and everything else that is offered on the way up, what do you want? You may as well go play EQ2, get near max buffed and go raid. I'm forced to play casually so I'm probably getting a different feel due to my pace but I have a ton to do. I haven't even touched all the content. I just don't know if people even want progression and character development anymore. How did you guys stand EQ? We had two dragons and two planes for quite a while. Again, maybe my ultra casual schedule is scewing everything.
 

Man0warr

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I just don't know if people even want progression and character development anymore. How did you guys stand EQ? We had two dragons and two planes for quite a while. Again, maybe my ultra casual schedule is scewing everything.
Didn't even have Planes for awhile. You had Sol B and LGuk farming, and Naggy and Vox for raiding. It just took an assload more time to get to that point than it does in MMOs these days.

Maybe that's the secret to making endgame content last longer? Just make it take 6 months to get to max level with brutal death penalties and a horrendous leveling curve!
 

Korrupt

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If you didnt do most of the dungeons they are pretty fun also the first time around, the only one I think I didnt step foot in is Aurum Vale. Cute loot for your alts while you level etc as well.
 

Kreugen

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Playing the game at whatever pace you feel comfortable = rushing to the top according to retarded fuckwits that will never understand how stupid they sound because it is impossible for them to comprehend that not everyone enjoys the same things that they do.

I'm so sick of that tired as fuck broken record line of subjective bullshit. Next time you start to say "rushing to the top" delete everything you wrote and punch yourself.
 

a_skeleton_03

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I tried to go slow and I am almost fifty within a week.

Then what?

You can't blame poopsocking on why people are disappointed with the game.