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I just saw on steam that the cnc games are getting workshop support. Lol, origins

Chapell said:

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This looks amazing, after 34 fucking years we get a faithful(and hopefully fun) video game adaptation of T2.

ok, the arcade game was fun I admit

Burns said:

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Man if zero hour gets more mods ill be giddy. Thats my favorate cnc game, mechanically

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Man if zero hour gets more mods ill be giddy. Thats my favorate cnc game, mechanically

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Don't think I played that one. C&C was one of my favorite series and Westwood a favorite studio (played every C&C/Dune under them), but by that time EA had already fucked over a bunch studios I liked previously, so I wasn't giving them any money. I think I have bought 1 EA game since 2000, which was SWTOR, where 80%+ was developed before EA bought Bioware.

Burns said:

Don't think I played that one. C&C was one of my favorite series and Westwood a favorite studio (played every C&C/Dune under them), but by that time EA had already fucked over a bunch studios I liked previously, so I wasn't giving them any money. I think I have bought 1 EA game since 2000, which was SWTOR, where 80%+ was developed before EA bought Bioware.

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So you didn't play CnC 3 or RA 3 either? Those were quality CnC games.

Gavinmad said:

So you didn't play CnC 3 or RA 3 either? Those were quality CnC games.

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Looking over them on Steam, there are units and the Jap faction(?) that I do not remember being in a C&C game, but it's been so long ago now. If I did play them, I pirated them and didn't find them memorable. I think I pirated Generals (I remember suicide bombers and the art looks familiar), 10ish years later, so maybe Zero Hour was part of it but that part of doesn't look familiar either.

Burns said:

Don't think I played that one. C&C was one of my favorite series and Westwood a favorite studio (played every C&C/Dune under them), but by that time EA had already fucked over a bunch studios I liked previously, so I wasn't giving them any money. I think I have bought 1 EA game since 2000, which was SWTOR, where 80%+ was developed before EA bought Bioware.

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yea C&C Generals (and it's superior expansion zero hour) kind of represent a road-not-traveled in the divergence of RTS games in that era. ALL of the units have upgrades that dictate them getting extra attacks and features, but the game never became a micromanagement button click bukkake like starcraft 2, red alert 3, C&C 3. a few units did have key ability's to deploy them (like siege tanks), each team had a super unit like a commando, but most units activated all their powers granted by upgrades on cooldown on their own. so in that respect it felt more like i guess the unit mechanics in C&C2 but flexing more. zero hour introduced generals you play (which i think C&C 3 did eventually too?) like you play a tank general who can't build aircraft, but gets +gooder tanks. had a ton of replay value.

thematically it was dorky as fuck. it was 'merica vs china vs terrorists. when it came out i was like "why does america have all these drones....that's weird". but heh. here we are. hilariously the videos and photos in it are just as cringy as you can imagine. white dudes painted in dirt pretending to be evil arab mad scientists. chineese units who talk in a chineese-english accent "We build FO china!" when they die they go "FOR CHINAAAA" (then explode). shit like that.

i was really salty generals 2 got canceled, but i'm skeptical that EA was even capable of doing it justice. Maybe mods can give it more generals challenges and such.

edit: man i just remembered that china's late-game money making unit was a hacker who sat on his laptop and stole money on the internet.

TheNozz said:

This looks amazing, after 34 fucking years we get a faithful(and hopefully fun) video game adaptation of T2.

ok, the arcade game was fun I admit

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i recently played Terminator Resistance and its really great, takes place 100% in a skynet future world and I believe only references T1 & T2 as canon

Pretty short too took me about 15 hours to 100% on a PS5. I prefer an FPS as well over a 2D side scroller

Burns said:

Looking over them on Steam, there are units and the Jap faction(?) that I do not remember being in a C&C game, but it's been so long ago now. If I did play them, I pirated them and didn't find them memorable. I think I pirated Generals (I remember suicide bombers and the art looks familiar), 10ish years later, so maybe Zero Hour was part of it but that part of doesn't look familiar either.

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They really are classic Command and Conquer games, particularly the cheesy as fuck but well produced live acted mission briefings with a fantastic B-list cast. They got Joe Kucan back to play Kane again and he might actually be Kane IRL because he looked like he hadn't aged a day since the first time he played the role. In Red Alert 3 you've got Tim Curry hamming it up like mad as the Russian Premier, George Takei in a semi-serious but hilariously overacted role as Japanese Emperor, and Gemma Atkinson giving you allied mission briefings with her uniform jacket and blouse unbuttoned almost down to her navel.

Honestly the fact that they buttoned Atkinson up for the expansion might be the single worst thing EA ever did.

Red alert is one of my favorite games of all time. This was the first game I ever played online using tcp/ip with a neighbor up the street.

Big Phoenix said:

Y'all are forgetting renegade.

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That's because aside from the perfectly cheesy intro cinematic where they manage to make it sound like you actually were every bit as much of a killing machine as the RTS commandos the game was profoundly bland. Boring guns, boring enemies, and a mostly boring environment aside from the occasional novelty like seeing the actual inside of a nod barracks.

Big Phoenix said:

Y'all are forgetting renegade.

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i had an insane amount of f un playing that multiplayer back in the day we'd have a room full of folks playing vs folks on the internet. so much fun guarding the base.

Big Phoenix said:

Y'all are forgetting renegade.

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While I didn't buy it, I played the online only beta. I found it fun for what it was, but FPS don't hold my interest, outside of Goldeneye with RL friends.

Burns said:

While I didn't buy it, I played the online only beta. I found it fun for what it was, but FPS don't hold my interest, outside of Goldeneye with RL friends.

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Im the same way. Goldeneye, a couple of the Halo's, etc. Playing with friends locally, its the most entertaining shit in the world. As soon as I login to some game as a service bullshit, though? My interest plummets, even if theyre online too. I dont know if its just where I suck as a person logging in for the first few times, or I just dont find them entertaining.. but I typically never buy/download FPS's now. I tried the most current version of COD when I first got my 4090 computer built at the end of 2023, and outside of just a system test - I didnt think the shit was at all even remotely fun.