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CaughtCross
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For hunting in Califorina you have to use expanding ammunition in your rifle so that you kill the animals quickly. Which would be either soft points or hollow points.
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Or maybe his lawyers should he objecting to irrelevant questions.
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Ambiturner
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I'm sure they exist, but I've literally never even seen a 5.56 or .223 hollow point. There's no reason for the prosecution to go into this other than to mislead the jury
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Yea, this whole line of logic should be squashed. The prosecutor is going after his bullet choice so hard, probably based on the fact that FMJ can pass through and hurt innocents. The problem is, that didn't occur in this case. Pretty sure prosecutors aren't allowed to bring up what if's harms that didn't happen. IE a drunk driver is arrested in a school zone at 3 am. You can't really focus on the school zone part and say kids could have been playing in the street and it could have been worse. No, kids weren't in the street, that didn't happen.
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Nirgon
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Ambiturner
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It's super weak also. Yes, it "can" pass through someone, but he's saying it's "designed" to which is just false
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Big Phoenix
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They exist but not very common. Cheapest and by far the most common is going to be FMJ.
Also hollowpoints are a thing for handguns when it comes to self defense, not rifles. For rifles shooting 5.56mm you do not use hollowpoints, you use FMJ rounds like Kyle used because when they hit somebody at close range, they completely fragment dumping all the energy of the round into the body while sending fragments all around the wound.
The prosecutor is completely backwards here because hes a soycuck that knows nothing about firearms or his being misleading.
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Byr
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He's just buying time to get to lunch break so he can re-organize after the judge stopped his strategy.
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I'm sure hollow point rifle rounds exist, because people are stupid. I only carry hot hollow points for my fatty bullets like my .357 shitter time comfort gun and my 9mms. I know I sure the fuck wouldn't want to stand behind someone getting hit with that 357 hollow point. Not a chance I'm betting my life that it wouldn't slice through them like butter.
At least that was the setup until the boating accident.
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Zapatta
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the stupid part is 'hollow point' .223 are usually match bullets for longe range target. 'Soft points' is what these idiots are describing, meant to deform and cause more trauma on impact. designed for hunting / killing. there are jacketed Hollow Points for 556 but hardly anyone uses them. You pick the projectile for the job you are trying to do. FMJ = plinking / target, Bonded soft points = massive wound channel.
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not only that, but soft points are bad for semi-automatic weapons as the soft bullet could shave off a little in the barrel and in time it could come build up enough to jam up your receiver.
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Pretty rare and pretty much exclusive for hunting and considering the 223/5.56 isnt a widely used hunting round it's easy to not know they exist. I'm not a hunter but I think it's pretty much exclusively used for varmint hunting.
edit: actually yeah what Zapatta said above is more accurate, rifle rounds dont really exist in traditional hollow point. the hollow portion is filled in with some kind of softer material to allow proper aerodynamics by keeping the round's normal shape but the material is soft enough to disintegrate and allow the bullet to expand as a traditional hollow point does when it hits something.
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Every bullet I've ever bought for my ARs has been a hollow point. I've shot 10s of thousands of rounds of Sierra Matchking HPBT bullets in High Power Rifle matches.
Sierra Bullets 69gnn HPBT.
They are not for hunting, they're target rounds.
Sierra Bullets 69gnn HPBT.
They are not for hunting, they're target rounds.
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Zapatta
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yup match bullets dont expand like handgun rounds like these idiots are implying. that hollow tip on match bullets is to break up the air in front of the projectile to track straighter and lower wind drift.
Soft Points and Bonded Bullets are when you want to drop a 2 or 4 legged critter and not have it keep on trucking down yonder.
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