How in the hell do you approach the idea of "becoming official" after 5 months, meeting parents, and going on vacation together? Not to say that she was pretty dumb and out there with thinking you didnt feel the same after such a period of time, but damn man.Chaotic said:Need perspective please.
Met girl of my dreams. I"ll leave it like that. I"m almost 30, did the player thing for the past half a decade, never saw myself settling down. Met this girl and she turned my world upside down. First time in my life I pictured marriage, kids, buying a house together.
Dated 5 months. She felt the same. She never wanted to be married until she met me, couldn"t imagine kids until now blah blah.(Shes 24 i"m 28) Mind you, we arent looking to get married or have kids or even move in. We are both done with school, have excellent jobs, solid savings.
We just got back from this incredible vacation. Best sex of my life, genuine good time, worked great as a team. It was a big stepping stone for us I guess. So I didn"t want to do to her what I do with every girl I bang more then once, which is string her along. I havent been seeing anyone she hasnt been seeing anyone, so we had "the talk" aka; hey are we official?
She lost it. Many things were said, but ultimately it was a combination of her not knowing if she was ready to sacrifice her time and independance and her ability to grow as a person for a serious relationship (she had two over the span of about 6 years, had a fuck buddy for 4 months prior to me, i"m the fourth guy shes been with) I attempted explaining to her that a healthy relationship should never inhibit or take away anything from anyone. She said that she feels either way she would be making a huge mistake, either letting me go or settling down and not knowing.
She said she assumed all along we were together, and she knew how she felt about me, but she kept herself secure in her head by telling her maybe I didn"t feel the same (female logic) so when it turned out I did, it made it all quite real for her.
There"s more to it but I don"t want a bigger essay. I"m just fucking devastated. I can"t even remember even being hurt by a girl since I was seventeen. It just wasnt my MO. I just don"t know how to go about coping besides the obvious staying busy etc. I just never pictured a future, so i"ve never been in the position to have that future shattered. Not eating, not sleeping - i"m sure people have been there.
We spoke and as it stands she needs time. She feels emotionally depleted and doesn"t know why. It"s so out of left field and such a strange reason. Oh, everything is perfect let"s break up. With what she"s saying I don"t have the answers. You can"t "make it better" if someone fears they will lose their independance or wants to make new friends or meet new people. It"s not something I can fix, which also makes me helpless. I"m trying to give her space to get her shit sorted, but while shes figuring it out i"m miserable and it"s pretty telling where it"s going to end up.
Ps we both have hung out with each others families, stayed at each others houses made all the introductions I mean, it was pretty serious. She even met my grandmother.
tldr; fuck relationships.
Was thinking the same.Big Phoenix said:How in the hell do you approach the idea of "becoming official" after 5 months, meeting parents, and going on vacation together? Not to say that she was pretty dumb and out there with thinking you didnt feel the same after such a period of time, but damn man.
That whole situation sucks. After 5 months and going on a vacation together I think it would be assumed you were together. I have never had the talk with a woman I was with, it just happens. I wouldn"t recommend ever having a talk about something like that. If a chick wants to be with you she will and it will be known pretty much.Chaotic said:tldr; fuck relationships.
Haha this dude really is Keg.wickedj51 said:The man who claims to be a "player" finds himself out played by a woman who is a greater player. Now his feelings are hurt. Good advice to you is to read the book "He is not that into you."
I didn"t want to be the one to say it first but this was my thought as well. You don"t date someone that long, and do those sorts of things together, only to have them freak out over the being exclusive thing unless she"s got someone else on the side.TheCutlery said:Was thinking the same.
Chaotic...has she been fucking around on you this whole time and you have no clue? Because that"s the ONLY way you date a girl for 5 months and she freaks out about actually becoming your girlfriend. The only logical explanation for her behavior is that you just asked if she"d stop blowing every guy she meets and she refused.
That has to be it!Seths said:I didn"t want to be the one to say it first but this was my thought as well. You don"t date someone that long, and do those sorts of things together, only to have them freak out over the being exclusive thing unless she"s got someone else on the side.
She may not be sleeping with that other person, but there is deffinately someone there. That"s why she said things like she didn"t want to be tied down, because the other person has triggered thoughts of maybe she wants something / someone else.
She wants to maintain the level you"re at but not be tied to you. Sorry man, but that screams something else on the side.
If she was into you, this never would have happened. It literally just doesn"t happen. No way, after 5 months, this girl thinks you"re "Just friends." No fucking way. She"s either batshit insane, or she"s not telling you the whole truth. She might not be lying, but she is definitely not saying everything. "I don"t know what I want" is basically code for "If I tell him what"s really going on, he"s gonna be pissed and probably pimp slap me."Chaotic said:You just might be right. I mean, it was my initial thought. I"d like to think we are very open and she"s not a liar - it"s what I know about her and she"s not the type. However, I don"t think anyone is ever like "yea, my girl is totally the kind of girl to lie and cheat!"
I asked her that pretty straight up and she said def not, and was offended - but unless shes as mentally unstable as she claims (she says she doesn"t know what she wants from day to day, or as a person, is in an emotional dead zone as a defense mechanism atm etc) then I can"t see anything else making sense.
Absolutely nothing to be done in any circumstance. You guys have me thinking down that dark path though, but whatever. Things are what they are. I"d just like to assume someone is being honest.
so she"s either a liar, a nut, or both? abandon shipChaotic said:I asked her that pretty straight up and she said def not, and was offended - but unless shes as mentally unstable as she claims (she says she doesn"t know what she wants from day to day, or as a person, is in an emotional dead zone as a defense mechanism atm etc) then I can"t see anything else making sense.
This, she basically realized that she"s only ever fucked 4 guys in her entire life, and isn"t ready to settle down, she wants to experience more variety (dick).Seths said:This. Do NOT try and convince her of anything. Nothing you say, no matter what it is or how you phrase it, will come across as anything other than "pressure" in her mind, and pressure will make her run away from you even faster. Leave her alone and develop the mindset that it"s over so that you have a good handle on your emotional state. Leaving her alone completely is pretty much the only way she"ll come to the realization that she wants to be with you if she is going to.