Gryeyes_foh
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If any of those things were derived directly from human suffering and misery it would be the exact same scenario. And you can claim it would be those things, sadly before it was the "thing" it wasn"t. So I would have to disagree.
Its like saying before Christmas was likewise created as the consumers holy day it would have existed...
Its like saying before Christmas was likewise created as the consumers holy day it would have existed...