Gladiator 2
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I guess but I am not seeing any clear path for use as a sex tool.....
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The main character has absolutely no charisma.
Crow has become a fat slob, but Maximus Decimus Meridius was a true general of the fearless Northern legions...
Crow has become a fat slob, but Maximus Decimus Meridius was a true general of the fearless Northern legions...
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Haven't seen the first in like a decade+, but it was a formative movie for me as a kid. I've got two dumb questions:
-Was Maximus always Lucius' father? The materials for this new movie say so, but I don't remember that being the case in the first movie. Thought it was more ambiguous than anything else (maybe even Commodus given how incestuous he felt towards his sister). This would mean Maximus cheated on his wife with Lucilla, which is hard to believe.
-Are these movies really historically accurate at all? I know they're based on real people/events, but then you have them going way off the reservation with things like Commodus being slain by Maximus in an arena when he was actually strangled in a bathtub.
Also, Lucius apparently came before Commodus in real life and was older than Commodus, which is a pretty goddamn big departure the first movie did from history.
The bad guys of the new movie followed two decades after Commodus (incidentally about as much time as has passed since the first movie) and granted citizenship to all the migrants in Rome lol. Looks like the new movie might be more accurate to history than the first, but the presence of Lucius in this era is still pretty weird. Unless there were two Luciuses.
Edit: The reason Caracalla is older in his statues and a kid in the movie is because the movie takes place in 211 AD when they co-ruled as teenagers. Geta was killed by Caracalla shortly after which is why his statue is a kid.
-Was Maximus always Lucius' father? The materials for this new movie say so, but I don't remember that being the case in the first movie. Thought it was more ambiguous than anything else (maybe even Commodus given how incestuous he felt towards his sister). This would mean Maximus cheated on his wife with Lucilla, which is hard to believe.
-Are these movies really historically accurate at all? I know they're based on real people/events, but then you have them going way off the reservation with things like Commodus being slain by Maximus in an arena when he was actually strangled in a bathtub.
Also, Lucius apparently came before Commodus in real life and was older than Commodus, which is a pretty goddamn big departure the first movie did from history.
The bad guys of the new movie followed two decades after Commodus (incidentally about as much time as has passed since the first movie) and granted citizenship to all the migrants in Rome lol. Looks like the new movie might be more accurate to history than the first, but the presence of Lucius in this era is still pretty weird. Unless there were two Luciuses.
Edit: The reason Caracalla is older in his statues and a kid in the movie is because the movie takes place in 211 AD when they co-ruled as teenagers. Geta was killed by Caracalla shortly after which is why his statue is a kid.
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I don't think the Lucius in the movie was supposed to represent Lucius Veres who was groomed along with Marcus Aurelius to become emperor by Antonius. There were like a dozen total Roman first names to choose from in those days and it can get pretty confusing.
Caracalla was a fucking blood thirsty monster and would make a pretty good villain.
Caracalla was a fucking blood thirsty monster and would make a pretty good villain.
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Dude (director) made it clear with the statement on Napoleon, that he doesn't give a fuck about history. Don't take anything in this movie, or the previous one, as anything but a fictional story that uses the same names.
This guy does a pretty good job of going over the historical accuracy of movies and some TV shows. I watched this years ago, but don't remember enough to give cliff notes:
That said, I liked Gladiator for what it was, a historical fiction. Not something I would or have watched a bunch, but it was good enough to watch more than once.
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Don't think I heard much about Caracalla before this and I read quite a bit about the Roman Empire in the past. I think when it comes to "bad" leaders, Caligula and Nero pretty much soak up all of the attention.
From what I've seen of this movie I suspect Caracalla might be the best thing about it, actually. Like the bloodthirstyness of Commodus turned up to 11 plus a dash of insane.
And yeah, Maximus' son Lucius is probably supposed to be a completely different person from Lucius Veres who was co-Emperor with Marcus Aurelius. I could see that confusing a lot of folks who aren't well-versed on any of this and look into it.
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Caracalla was pretty bad. Blood thirsty and was a major reason Rome descended into chaos during the third century.
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The kid in the first movie specifically told Maximus that Lucius Veres was his father. His father briefly ruled with Marcus Aurelius before dying, historical. The kid himself is not a historical figure that ever ruled. Entirely feasible that Maximus could have really been his father (in the movie) since he obviously had a thing with Lucilla long past.
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This steelbook of the original movie is pretty badass also, but no way in hell would I drop $150 on it. Maybe $50 total, but even that's iffy.
This steelbook of the original movie is pretty badass also, but no way in hell would I drop $150 on it. Maybe $50 total, but even that's iffy.
NEW Gladiator 4K SteelBook Blu-ray Supreme Edition Titans of Cult #20 [2000](UK) | eBay
This includes the 4K & blu-ray disc of the film in a SteelBook case. There are no dents on the SteelBook as far as I can see. These editions will not have perfect corners as the set is large and heavy.
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Denzel after being tricked into kissing a dude and finding out its not even going to be in the movie;
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Nero wasn't even really that bad when it came to actually managing the empire. He kept in place a lot of the good stuff Claudius did and the Empire was in good shape for Vespacian once the dust settled at the end of the Year of the Four Emperors. But he was quite literally insane and enjoyed watching people tortured in the most horrific ways imaginable.
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I think twice was my limit, I never understood the mass appeal on that one
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