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I think it's cute that people expect GRRM to actually finish this series. He's literally going to live the Robert Baratheon life until he chokes on a pork chop.

My biggest gripe with this episode is the huge disparity in "density" of the attacking undead between the larger battle scenes (where they literally came through as a tidal wave of skeletal limbs mowing down everything in their path) to the smaller scenes where the main characters are literally picking them off one by one and never really overwhelmed. Even when the horde initially storms into the godswood, Theon and company calmly plinks them one at a time with their bows.

So we're basically left with an episode of prep for the showdown at KL, that battle, and the wrap up as the three final episodes.
I would be fine with seasons 6-8 if it meant that fat fuck paid for it karmically by getting drunk and then gored by a boar.
 
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That's the same line Syrio says to her when he starts teaching and when the kingsguard comes come to get her
Melisandre was not syrio, she just knew about that, the same way she told Jon "you know nothing jon snow.
 
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Lanx

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yo, that lord of light has been spot on this whole series, if i was in westeros, i'd be like "fuck the old gods and the new, lord of light gimme a fiery avenger"
 
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Qhue

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So...

The Lord of Light really only had two functional priests that did anything : Thoros and Mellisandre. Wonder why the rest of them in Essos have their panties in a bunch? As extinction level events go this was a fizzle for most of the planet. Hell Valyria exploding was a bigger deal by far.
 
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I think a lot of it was fanfic, but I don't think Arya killing the NK was fanfic. In the BTS afterwards, the producers said they knew Arya was going to do it for 3 years, which leads me to believe it was a GRRM plot point that they wrote around.
I got the exact opposite vibe from the BTS bit, as if they knew they wanted to have Arya kill the NK for the last 3 years. I doubt whatever battle goes down in the books (lol at us ever finding out) is anything like this at all. They've known Gurrm's ending since this all started.
I do agree that, as of now, Bran's storyline is pretty dumb. So he went through all that just to be bait for the Night King? Hopefully this gets addressed in the remaining episodes.
His end purpose wasn't just to be bait. Like I said, his most important contributions will be his knowledge, specifically being able to verify Jon's heritage and rightful claim to the throne. Not sure what use he is now though.
 
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The dark was definitely for money saving which is why it was so frustrating budget controlling the story telling
 
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Merrith

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Pretty ridiculous everyone that was at Tyrion's little fireside chat the night before all survived the fight just like he miraculously predicted.
 
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I love the complaints and memes about how dark it was. I haven't added my complaint yet, but it surely was a head-scratcher and I felt like at any moment I was missing a key death somewhere. I don't know how they could have approved this.

Add the complete darkness to incredibly quick edits & shaky cam, and the majority of the episode was unwatchable.

And on top of that, they had to go and "bring winter" to the fight.

They should have allowed the dragonfire to illuminate more of the field, just have burning piles of wights everywhere so we could actually see. Or just up the brightness anyway, like LotR.

Battles are hard to do, granted, and while we now know the outcome of the war, I liked the 1st 2 episodes more than this. Slaying monsters for 70+ minutes is a yawn fest. I wanted something with substance and we got very little.
 
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I feel like I felt walking out of TLJ.

It was not bad, but it was not what I expected and i am left with the feeling that what I saw was not adequate. NK might was well be Snoke.
 
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Feanor

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Don't know how I feel about the episode really. Was definitely an experience to watch, though.

Dothraki getting snuffed out one flame at a time was great, as was the initial undead horde rushing into view afterwards. There were a lot of visually awesome scenes, especially the dragon fight above the clouds and a fucked up Viserion spewing blue flame out the side of his face while Jon was trying to figure out how not to die.

Arya killing the NK... not sure what to say that hasn't already been said. Felt good to see him get rekt, but felt cheap how she just appeared out of nowhere, even if she's a super assassin. The godswood was PACKED on all sides with wights. Did she jump off the roof?

What the goddamn fuck was Bran doing? Warged and got to see the NK through the eyes of ravens. All right? So what? To what end or purpose? It's late so maybe I'm missing something but it sounds like his only reason to become the three eyed raven was to discover Jon's true heritage. Maybe that's enough, but it makes me wonder why bother with him now narratively. Hopefully he'll contribute somehow to whatever goes down in KL.

Speaking of which, if this was truly the end of the NK and the threat from the North, it feels like a giant weight has been lifted off our protagonists' backs and the fight for the Iron Throne is just a 3 episode epilogue that is nowhere near as dangerous. This was the fight for the fate of the world. The rest is just the fate of the Seven Kingdoms. It feels anticlimactic but maybe that's why so many of our favorites survived here. Guessing plenty will be killed to make the remaining conflict feel more important. Not sure where this goes other than Cleganebowl, Jaime killing Cersei, and whatever shenanigans happen between Jon and Dany.

I'd probably care more about the aftermath if Euron was even remotely as awesome and dangerous as he is in the books. Book Euron seems like he could almost be as threatening as the NK based on the preview chapters, what with him appearing to be some psychotic avatar of the Drowned God. They've never remotely hinted at his obsession with Valyria or occult shit in the show, so that aspect is obviously not happening. The actor just sucks anyway. Really wish they hadn't bungled that one for the final act.

I don't know how they could do it in a way that isn't retarded, but I almost hope that wasn't really the end of the white walker threat. Retarded writing has been par for the course since season 5, so who knows. I can't help but nitpick the shit out of this after the first 4 seasons though. Why didn't they show a 3 second clip of Ghost alive and killing shit? Why did the wights stabbing Beric while he was pulling a JC pose just collapse and let him catch up to Arya and Sandor? What were Sandor and Mel doing after Arya ran off? Why were Jaime, Grey Worm, Brienne, and Tormund all off doing their own separate "let's get surrounded by 50 wights and hope someone saves us somehow!" thing? Guess it didn't matter, but why the fuck was Dany just sitting there with Drogon letting a hundred wights climb up on him? Why did Mel walk so slowly to the trench? WHY DID NO ONE CONSIDER THE FACT THAT CRYPTS ARE FULL OF CORPSES? Why were those corpses able to bust through stone sarcophagi? Why is Sam still a bitch that got Edd killed? Whhhhhyyyyyyy?
Some good non-autist criticisms in that post.

I'm sort of underwhelmed by the Night King getting ganked. Winterfell could have been a total bloodbath. That might sound cool and all but think about it. The white walkers going on to attack Cersei after every worthwhile character dies (all in the north not coincidentally) sounds boring as fuck. The only other option was having the Night King absent during the battle which might have been a badass twist and one I'm not averse to.

The show should pay off the white walkers/three eyed raven. If it doesn't, given everything from the start of the story, that would be some shitty fucking writing then. This post sums it up better than me.
He quite literally started the series with them and has left reminders at every turn that the human fighting in the shadow of the new long night is the greatest folly of the story. If they are not his final boss then he has spent two decades focusing on the wrong goddamn story.
But there's still three episodes left. We don't know yet what will happen. Also Jon and Dany barely did shit. You've got dragons, motherfuckers, use them.

Why were those corpses able to bust through stone sarcophagi?
Stark wights bursting through sarcophagi is a really good point. Guess brittle zombified bones are strong enough to break through stone, logic be damned. #Hollywood

I'm also unsure what to think of the episode. In a way it was much better than Hardhome. Time will tell.

Some complaints though occasionally sound like this
 
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Kaige

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I think it's cute that people expect GRRM to actually finish this series. He's literally going to live the Robert Baratheon life until he chokes on a pork chop.

Yup. He can bullshit the series away by suggesting the TV show. If you look at his work, he's been cranking out Wild Cards novels and alternate ASoIaF books, but every time he has to answer the Winds of Winter question, he just says that he's "working on it".
 

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My .02 cents

Thought the fighting and action sequences mostly worked and were well done. The Arya scenes in particular had a great vibe to them. Loved the opening sequence with the Dothraki, and the dragons above the cloud line was really impressive. Overall, that portion of the episode was very well done. I'm seeing a lot of complaints about the "darkness" and I think that was largely for effect - looked great on the OLED, but I started watching it on an edge lit LED and it looked very washed out in comparison so moved to the living room.

That said, "Winter is Coming" - that's the mantra this show has had from the very first chapter of the very first book... What a letdown. The great big bad guys from the jump in this series are the White Walkers, the Night King, etc and this episode felt very cheap (not budget cheap) and hamfisted. People absolutely love to rip GRRM for the later books in the series, but every season post A Dance with Dragons book content has been worse than the one before it on the show. We've reached peak Hollywood bullshit and I'm frankly kind of just over it. I don't believe GRRM will ever finish his series either, which makes this even worse.

Last night was fine for what it was, but as a book reader first (and fan) it wasn't satisfying at all. It felt rushed and cheap and that is NOT a great way to end the "Song of Fire & Ice". Now we have half a season to deal with Cersei bullshit, when the world was just saved.... Just, what??

Piece of shit hollywood writers
 
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TJT

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So...

The Lord of Light really only had two functional priests that did anything : Thoros and Mellisandre. Wonder why the rest of them in Essos have their panties in a bunch? As extinction level events go this was a fizzle for most of the planet. Hell Valyria exploding was a bigger deal by far.

Book has the Black Flame and the Central Church of light if you will who were all capable of foreseeing the future and some pyromancy tricks and shit. Lord of Light definitely is the only God who shows his power so openly.
 

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maybe the director made the battle dark in order to help hide some of the cgi.

I would bet money that is why they did it. It still sucked though. The Walking Dead has a fraction of the budget this show has and still can convey a massive herd of zombies pretty effectively, and that's all they really needed to do was a couple far shots of that, then focus on just close ups of each major character and their fight.
 
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Qhue

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I kinda wonder why anyone bothers worshipping the Seven at this point. I suppose you could make an argument that the magic we have seen is not necessarily the result of a deity, but in cases where worshippers of a god have actual power I'd tend to think people would go with that.
 
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