Lenas
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GoT - Is Over, Post Your Drogon Sightings
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Jon says that but it doesn't actually make sense. If you are testing the defenses, as a general rule, you don't waste all of your troops amassed on the less defensible side of the wall. I guess Mance is just an incredibly bad tactician.
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Yeah, no believes there were giants north of the wall.
I want to say they said they were frozen shut? But there are secret hidden ways around the frozen in part. That is how Bran and co got north of the wall and that is where they ran into sam who learned about the secret passages by reading about them.
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its called plot convenience, basically the same principal behind a car flying off a cliff exploding into a ball of fire before it even hits the ground. oooh shiny. it doesnt take away from GRRM's writings, its just typical tropes, ya know like when a key character is about to get killed somebody comes in at the very last second to save them. at least GRRM only plays that card once in a while.
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When the Watch abandoned the other castles on the wall they stuffed iron and chains in and froze the tunnels to make it hard to re-open them. There are tunnels and caves underneath the wall, but most are secret, and when the wilding try and make their own they get lost underneath the earth most of the time, due to the nature of tunneling and also magic. The Watch will sometimes find the entrances and seal them shut, dooming those in the tunnel to dig forever in the dark.
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That moment with Ygritte dying did make me laugh.
As she was collapsing in his arms, I thought to myself how it would be funny for Jon to say to her "Say, it. Say it one more time : You know nothing Jon Snow".
Then it actually happened. Took me out of the show, gotta say.
Get ready for someone to do a youtube edit of that Simpson's scene where everyone does their catchphrase, and add in Ygritte's death.
As she was collapsing in his arms, I thought to myself how it would be funny for Jon to say to her "Say, it. Say it one more time : You know nothing Jon Snow".
Then it actually happened. Took me out of the show, gotta say.
Get ready for someone to do a youtube edit of that Simpson's scene where everyone does their catchphrase, and add in Ygritte's death.
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The testing of defenses also was to serve as a distraction. Most men were up on top of the wall. You hear Ygritte, I believe it was, say something like it'll be over before they know we're here, meaning by the time the men on top of the wall knew they were being attacked by the south gate (or at least before they could come down the lift) everyone below would be slaughtered already. Seems like they could have sat an archer somewhere to just shoot people in the lift as it was going up and down, but that wouldn't be very sportsmanlike I suppose.
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"wait guys don't pull plz im regenning my mana"
"wait tank plz"
"PLZ"
jumps off
"WHAT THE FUCK TANK!"
Pretty much how i envisioned it
They tested them and they were weak. Seems people behind shows and movies don't really think through why that tactic is used and that is to find a place to commit your main force, but you do it once the weakness is found, you don't wait a day and sit on your ass.
Keep pouring men up/through the wall and it doesn't matter how many the Night's Watch can kill, a couple hundred men can only do so much before they collapse in exhaustion.
What I find the biggest crock was flanking team just busying themselves in a broke up melee down below instead of making a line for the main gate and opening it up. Get that thing open and it's all over and it's why that little bit is the bread and butter of shows whenever they have a team infiltrate a castle and hasten a siege.