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Tuco

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Yeah it's a funny problem. Even if Jozu were to clearly lay out what happens as a 'guess', as long as non-book readers think it's a guess it isn't really a spoiler. And if Jozu said, "Boy I bet Robb is getting betrayed at this wedding and blah blah blah" people wouldn't be spoiled. But if someone said to him, "Dude that's a huge spoiler" bam, now it is a spoiler.
Talk about timing. Tarrant made a 'like father like son' prediction in the no spoiler thread. Izo thought he was nostradouching or whatever and reported his post. Tarrant has never read spoilers or the books so the report he got in his email totally ruined it for him and now he's all depressed and shit. chris gave him a neg in his profile so anyone who sees the neg and reads the post will get spoiled.

What should I do? infract chris for negging Tarrant unjustly? Infract Izo for accidentally spoilering Tarrant? In this case I'm going to let it go but if someone brings up Tarrant's neg or anythign in the no spoiler thread it's a spoiler.
 

McCheese

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That sort of situation is unavoidable. People just need to read the fucking books.

*edit to clarify* You can only do so much to protect people from spoilers. Fuck, I had some stuff from the books ruined for me because of some pictures posted in the FSR years ago on FoH. After that I realized I needed to read the books to prevent it in the future. I'm not a proponent of purposely spoiling something, but I don't have any sympathy for people whoknowinglyfrequent places where it's possible things will be spoiled. I'm curious, do these people avoid all social media? I see people who are currently reading the books regularly post stuff that would spoil it for those who haven't read it yet.

I've never seen The Wire but I know several of the big character deaths simply because they've been mentioned here and there in passing in threads completely unrelated to the show. The same thing can always happen with Game of Thrones, and these idiots need to realize that.
 

Terial

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According to a report on TorrentFreak, the first episode of Game of Thrones? latest season was downloaded more than a million times in the 24-hour period after it premiered on HBO, with more than 160,000 people sharing one single torrent simultaneously at one point, setting a new record for the largest BitTorrent swarm ever.


more here...
http://www.wired.com/underwire/2013/...Top+Stories%29
 

Lenas

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I doubt GRRM is ever going to lay it out plainly...
All we know for sure is that GRRM said the world's unusual climate is magical in nature and will be explained at the end. I assume he will also explain dragons, giants, whites, etc. at the same time.
 

Chrisd_sl

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Jozu's post in the non-spoiler thread: Red wedding is coming


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Also they're discussing how Melisandre has the unfettered ability to summon cooter wraiths. When is it explained that cooterwraiths basically drain the soul of the stud she summons them with?
I imagine it has more to do with the fact that during last season in the non spoiler thread he innocently said that Robb marrying Talia wouldn't matter as Frey is just one of Robb's bannerman, only for some fuckhead book readers to instantly jump in and start correcting him as to the importance and nature of the Freys.
 

LadyVex_sl

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I don't think there's anything wrong with whittling down the show; it doesn't detract from how great the show is, but let's be honest. ASoIaF is perhaps the greatest fantasy literary work since Tolkien. There's a tremendous amount of depth that can't come across in the show, and that's going to disappoint people.

However, what I'm worried about is not disappointment, because the book and the show are not the same thing. What I am worried about are the people who are going to get the wrong idea about characters because of how easily they are revealed, or introduced, or how they are giving conversations they never have in the book.

For example, season 1, a few people said to me, wow Dany is such a whore, just like Cersei. Using her twat to get ahead! In the show, Khal Drogo rapes her while she cries, then asks Doreah to teach her how to make the Khal love her. So, it's not inconceivable that someone could assume she has a fucking beaten woman syndrome and now she wants to make the guy who beat her love her.

In the book obviously, we know from the very first ride that he's actually kind, and Dany lucked out. Doreah showing her pillow tricks were more to have the Khal see her as an equal, or at the very least love her so that he would listen to what she had to say. Which was pertinent since she needed to dothraki to cross the sea to take back her throne.

I simply whimper a bit inside when I see the show, because I don't want to hear 4 episodes in that "Oh my god, poor Cersei" since they've made her a more sympathetic character in the show, or "Wow, Selmy, what a turn cloak! Went over to the other side pretty fast eh?"

When you draw a direct line between two events, two characters or two mindsets people are going to assume that the encounter in question was as easy for the person as it was in the show. The quickest route between two points and all that. And the book is absolutely wonderful, in that, even if the decision was fucking stupid, you probably can't blame the character for making it, because you know why they did. And obviously I'm not as worried about reasoning, because that's always hard to show visually, but I certainly will feel bad for anyone just watching the show for not getting the full package of the characters. Everyone in this show is ridiculously complex, and it's a huge buildup most of the time in the book to lead us to how we feel about them. And more often than not, it changes.

The show is still great, I still love it, it deserves all of it's praise. But knowing how I feel about certain people, so to hear someone else in the room watching who has never read and get an entirely different idea about them, well...I have a hard time with that. YOU SHOULD HATE THAT ASSHOLE FOR ALL THE SAME REASONS I DO AND NOT BECAUSE HE PAIRED ORANGE TROUSERS WITH A RED SHIRT.
 

Kubla Kas_sl

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I imagine it has more to do with the fact that during last season in the non spoiler thread he innocently said that Robb marrying Talia wouldn't matter as Frey is just one of Robb's bannerman, only for some fuckhead book readers to instantly jump in and start correcting him as to the importance and nature of the Freys.
Well, the Freys aren't that important as long as you are fine not travelling between the North and the South
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Seriously, maybe Robb thought, "Hey, I am past him now... by time I have to deal with him again and go back home to the North, I will be the King of the Seven Kingdoms and he will have to listen to me or be destroyed."
 

Binkles_sl

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The show is still great, I still love it, it deserves all of it's praise. But knowing how I feel about certain people, so to hear someone else in the room watching who has never read and get an entirely different idea about them, well...I have a hard time with that. YOU SHOULD HATE THAT ASSHOLE FOR ALL THE SAME REASONS I DO AND NOT BECAUSE HE PAIRED ORANGE TROUSERS WITH A RED SHIRT.
I can't help but read through most of thinking it's not the show, it's you. I liked how the show, in what TV can manage, still attempted to paint the characters in shades of grey. Yes, Cersei is snarky and clumsy in her cuntyness, but there are moments where she appears nearly human. That, or the show shows glimpses of the person Cersei could have been before being devoured by her bitchiness. It's infeasible for the show to do a page by page recreation of the novels, but the characters seem to be a fair caricature of the source material while admitting some information is lost.
 

Soygen

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What should I do? infract chris for negging Tarrant unjustly? Infract Izo for accidentally spoilering Tarrant? In this case I'm going to let it go but if someone brings up Tarrant's neg or anythign in the no spoiler thread it's a spoiler.
It's like Spoilers: Inception Edition.
 

Szlia

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About the magic: wasn't there at some point in season 1 a character witnessing something in the sky and wondering if it was some sort of omen/oracle?

About Robb's foreign wife to be: the plot does not give a very good sense of the political and economic relations that the seven kingdoms have with the rest of the world. We just know these exist and that's enough to assume there are a number of people, organisations and states that have eyes and ears in the seven kingdoms to just get some intelligence about the situation. There might also be hands and daggers ready to steer the course of History. The healer might be one of those, but I don't remember anything that suggest she might be (other than her origin). What she can become though is a target.
 

chaos

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The red comet, that was in season 2 I believe. It coincided with the birth of the dragons and a few other events.
 

Zhaun_sl

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I continue to just hate Danaerys. I see her face, I just want her to die horribly. I know how important she is to the overall story and I like Jorah and Selmy and all, but good lord do I hate her and just want her to go away forever. I don't know if it is the actress or the character, but I just can't stand her.

Though people saying she is using people with sex as she gets brutally raped by Drogo is kind of pathetic.
 

LadyVex_sl

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I continue to just hate Danaerys. I see her face, I just want her to die horribly. I know how important she is to the overall story and I like Jorah and Selmy and all, but good lord do I hate her and just want her to go away forever. I don't know if it is the actress or the character, but I just can't stand her.

Though people saying she is using people with sex as she gets brutally raped by Drogo is kind of pathetic.
I dislike Dany in the show but really liked her in the series. Like I said, without all the internal shit she just comes across (to me) as a spoiled child who was told once upon a time that she is amazing and a queen and OMG GIVE ME MY RIGHTS.

In the book the way she thinks through things, and how she wants to protect people makes it far more acceptable when she stomps her foot, and even makes it necessary. I think her character progression is flawed because of how quickly things seem to go, but it will eventually all lead to the same place so in the long run I guess it doesn't matter.

I know that feel though. And yea, I really don't get the whole using people with sex thing either, I just know it's how they interpreted it, so was merely thinking of all the ways the rest of it could be.
 

LadyVex_sl

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BUT HE HAS BLUE EYES!

Dany in the books can go fuck herself.
ADWD Dany < other book Dany's imo. I started to be a little annoyed with her in the last one, but up till that point I really liked her. She is one of the only genuinely "good" people in the series. Her motivations are not selfish, though they might be influenced a bit by her own wants. The show just makes he ADWD Dany the entire series. ; ;
 

chaos

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Not selfish? How many people have died for "her throne?"

I liked her towards the end of the book, once she left the city with Drogon and got her shit together.
 

Gravel

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That sort of situation is unavoidable. People just need to read the fucking books.
Pretty much this. I know it sucks, but if you're going to read a thread about the show, despite the fact that it says No Spoilers, on something so popular...well...

Also, as far as show Dany, if she'd show more tits I'd enjoy her character more.
 

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Forgot where I read or heard, but winter has to do with a little bit of the magic, and the White Walkers have always been around up in the north. They just don't come down unless there is a strong winter where its always night. The last time the White Walkers made an appearance was the last great winter and were "defeated", they alluded that the next winter cycle would be the worst since then. The dragons are indirectly related to the return of magic like was said above, where proximity determines power.

edit -no spoilers bro