GoT - Is Over, Post Your Drogon Sightings

Kirun_sl said:

Not having any other method of transportation out of Mareen isn't a necessity?

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Tyrion freeing the dragons so he could leave Mereen is an interesting thought, but seems like a stretch. He clearly states that he wants to free the dragons bc they're currently chained up and not eating and are symbolic to Dany being the dragon queen. He's kind of obsessed with dragons given his story about how he wanted one when he was younger and how he reads about them even as an adult. So it makes perfect sense that he cares about their well being. It's a case of him presuming to know things and in this case he was right in that the dragons are intelligent enough to not eat the help.

Sylas_sl said:

Cat had a complete psychotic breakdown and went insane before she died. There's really nothing to indicate that her ressurection is fundamentally different than Beric's other than the manner in which it occurred. She was dead longer so her body is more broken down, but she is still the same Cat that she was at the moment of her death, just a little bit less, just like beric.

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Been awhile since I read the books, but wasn't Beric rezzed a lot closer to the time he fell than Cat was? Like to the point she was lying in the river a couple of days? Not sure if that would have any effect on it. John was dead on the show for what, a day?

I would say yes to a day. However, it's very cold out there, so his body was more preserved. Similar to how the bodies in a morgue are in refrigeration units.

Lenas_sl said:

Dany is more than willing to get along with lots of people and Jon has never wanted to be king. I don't see why they can't coexist without Jon being a Targ.

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Well she did say ...

Oh, Theon deciding to leave, ok. It was a quick scene, I lumped it in with last week's stuff in my head.

Sylas_sl said:

Cat had a complete psychotic breakdown and went insane before she died. There's really nothing to indicate that her ressurection is fundamentally different than Beric's other than the manner in which it occurred. She was dead longer so her body is more broken down, but she is still the same Cat that she was at the moment of her death, just a little bit less, just like beric.

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Did you quote the wrong person? I'm not the one arguing that Jon is going to change; I'm just curious if Jon is going to be the living dead, (Like LSH) or alive, like Beric was.

And as an FYI, they were fundamentally different. Beric was resurrected - I suspect that he was "brought back" and thus had his memory fucked up from doing so. Catelyn wasn't resurrected; her corpse was just given Beric's "spark of life" as they referred to it. She's locked in the state she was in at her death; mental breakdown and extreme lust for vengeance.

It's Lazarus compared to Frankenstein, basically.

As we were left just seeing Jon wake up, we won't know till next Sunday. It's possible he was brought back ala Mel, and thus is alive. (Possibly confused and/or with parts of his memory missing, like Beric, but otherwise still the same) But it's also possible that his life was simply exchanged, perhaps with someone who had just died at the wall and/or Mel giving her life instead.

I don't think Jon will be that different, with the sole exception that his current situation could twist things a bit. IE, what will his reaction be? LSH gives no fucks whatsoever, and I think part of that is because her family is dead and scattered and she's...well. Like, what else are you going to do to her?

If he's alive, you could kill him again, essentially.

My money is just on a pure resurrection. He'll be alive, he'll heal, and he'll be extremely pissed.

I have this gut feeling that everyone being super stoked about next week will be disappointed. Not because the ToJ arc won't be good, but because the episode will end when they finally show the tower.

Soygen_sl said:

They wouldn't even know what it was supposed to be.

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Ok, then extend it a minute. They establish that it's Eddard Stark fighting (for Robert Baratheon) to save his sister, Lyanna from Rhaegar Targaryen. They pull their swords to fight the Kingsguard. Credits.

I feel like that was a spoiler.

I can't imagine delving into the past a whole hell of a lot when they have 23 characters to follow on 8 continents, some of which have been ignored for seasons.

Royal_sl said:

Well she did say ...

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Jon's not fully a Stark.

Plus, Tyrion's a Lannister.

ToJ on the show will go like this

Flashback, show fighting.
Just before we get confirmation Jon Snow is the baby in the Tower...the 3 Eyed Raven will pull Bran back. Queue Trollface.

Willis, not Hodor!

But if she already had the baby prior to the battle, it was made by Willis. He may transform to Hodor during the battle, but it was Willis that was the father.