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Gravy

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I thought the oil in the water for pasta theory had been debunked. I never do it any more, just add salt to the water. If youmake sure you use an abundance of water, stir occasionally, then your pasta won't stick together.

I can't stand most of the TV Food Show ho's, but I have cooked a few Giada dishes because they are simple and taste great. And she's usually showing boobs.

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Abefroman

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I'm kind of bad at making meatballs regardless of recipe. I have a hard time not over-compacting the ingredients when mixing and then forming the balls. I think I would try to cook those in a crockpot rather than on the range though.
That's how I usually make them for the no fuss way. Can't really fuck these up.
 

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I thought the oil in the water for pasta theory had been debunked. I never do it any more, just add salt to the water. If youmake sure you use an abundance of water, stir occasionally, then your pasta won't stick together.

I can't stand most of the TV Food Show ho's, but I have cooked a few Giada dishes because they are simple and taste great. And she's usually showing boobs.

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It has been debunked. If your pasta sticks in the pot, stir it or add more water. If it sticks on the plate...put some sauce on it like you should have. The oil is for foam reduction, if you're too lazy to watch the pot while it boils.


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The Master

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Shouldn't be an issue if you're using the correct amount of water. It will prevent foam overs if you're using too little water for the amount of pasta. That's about it, it does nothing else.
 

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Usually when I cook I dont use recipes. I use experience in the kitchen and what my mom and other relatives/ tv shows over the years..etc used to do for technique and ingredients. Cooking is not an exact science like baking pastry. Like emeril used to say, its not rocket science.

Take for example, meatballs. Why the fuck would you need a recipe for that shit?

The only time I used recipes as guides is for more of the exptic shit that I never cooked before, like Indian, or some chinese or shit like that. But the common stuff I cook on a weekly basis I just throw together.

I also like to try to imitate shit that I eat at restaurants. for example there is this awesome mexican place we go to all the time and they have this aesome chicken mixtue they use inside their burritos. So I tried and tried until I got close to it at home.

Also here is a tip. If you guys have an Indian store near you, its a great place to pick up some seasonings on the cheap. shit like cumin, ground red pepper, paprika, bay leaves, pepper corns for grinders, etc... Its like pennies on the dollar.
 

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However, recipes are pretty damn critical with baking. Baking is like a goddamn science experiment. If you accidentally use a teaspoon of something when it calls for a tablespoon, shit will go bad in a hurry
 

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It's nice to see that when me and Ao- or whoever the fuck that was stopped going full retard in the cooking thread that Deathwing was ready to pick up the flag and run with it.

Obviously this thread has gone to shit for lack of internets.

You can experiment with baking a bit, but you need to get the flour/fat/egg/liquid/salt/leavening in the right ratios or it will be a shit show. Because of that it's hard to just improvise when you're baking.

I tend to agree with not using recipes for cooking meat/vegetable dishes and sauces though, or at least not just mindlessly following them. Learn techniques rather than recipes and then experiment. Be sure and taste things before and after you add ingredients. You might fuck it up once in a while but it will make you a better cook. Then when you want to make a dish you can go online, read half a dozen recipes to see how other folks have done it, and go from there.
 

Deathwing

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Yes, I too wish I could neg people for suggesting shitty recipes.

You do realize the reason I hate Rachel Ray is essentially what you stated in your last paragraph?
 

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BTW my Mom makes Mexican lasagna that uses real lasagna noodles. I can't remember the exact details but you layer in seasoned ground beef, refried beans, black olives, and salsa in 3 layers of uncooked lasagna noodles, put sour cream and cheese on top, and bake it. Not exactly authentic or fancy, but it tastes good.
 

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"Who actually follows recipes to cook". Gimme a break. You guys are so lame. This thread is so holier than thou.
 

Joeboo

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Made some ghetto manicotti last night and it turned out awesome. Instead of the traditional cooking of the noodles and then it being a massive pain in the ass to fill the noodles, I filled the noodles while they were still hard and uncooked, which made it super easy, threw them all in the crockpot, and then pored a jar of spaghetti sauce over them. Cooked on low all day and they turned out awesome and tender.

And anytime I cook anything italian, I pretty much double or triple the amount of garlic that the recipe calls for. My wife and I love garlic, we go through tons of it.
 

Gravy

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I love the garlic, too. And I'm no purist, I'll use powder, granulated, refrigerated pre-chopped, or fresh. Usually whatever is handy. Although I don't use garlic salt..why pay for the salt?
 

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What was complicated about that recipe, Chaos? That's the prime reason I don't like her, she's cooking for idiots. You think I'd know how to properly scramble eggs or make biscuits if all I cooked were Rachel Ray recipes? I don't know if people picked up on this from the weight loss thread, but I like engaging my brain, even during leisurely activities. Rachel Ray is cooking by numbers.

Disclaimer: she maybe have upped her game in recent years, idk. Maybe she's making fancy shit now.
It was complicated for me at the time. Making a sauce of any kind is complicated for a guy whose go to meal consists of boxed mac and cheese with tuna mixed in. Recipes like that and shows like Good Eats taught me to cook. And led me to want to cook, to be unsatisfied with the mediocre shit I had.

I use recipes all the time, call me a fucking casual or whatever, blonde hair don't care bros. It helps me come up with ideas. And it is proven, I cook for 5+ people daily so I don't have the time or money to fuck around.
 

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"Who actually follows recipes to cook". Gimme a break. You guys are so lame. This thread is so holier than thou.
If it's a good recipe then by all means use it. All I'm saying is that learning how to cook is different than learning how to follow a recipe and if you learn how to cook you will be able to tell a good recipe from a bad one and how to make a decent recipe into a good one or adjust it to fit the stuff you have in the house rather than having to go to the supermarket for the exact ingredients. If I'm cooking an Alton Brown recipe I will generally follow it pretty much to the letter because I know that he won't throw a bullshit recipe out there. If I'm looking at random ones on cooks.com because I googled something, it's good to know how to cook so you can evaluate a bunch of different recipes and pick a good one or come up with something on your own using different people's ideas. It's also good to just take an ingredient, look at what you have in the fridge to put with it, and try something out sometimes. It's not rocket science, and I have several things I make that I never read a recipe for but they came out good enough to stay in the rotation and people are impressed when I make them because they haven't had it before.'

This is if you want to be a good cook and not just get some shit on the table.

I think Deathwing has too much angst over Rachel, but she will put making things easy and low calorie ahead of making them good in her recipes and cut corners wherever she can. After all, the name of her show is "30 Minute Meals", and not "Good Eats". Also, ground chicken breast is not the path to deliciousness.
 

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Speaking of pasta, Alton Brown now claims on his podcast that he doesn't do the thing where you boil a big ass pot of water and then add your pasta to it anymore. Somebody called in to the podcast and asked if he would change anything about the old show and he said that in the pasta episode he always said to start making pasta by boiling at least a gallon of water but nowadays he just covers the pasta with cold water and brings it to a boil and then simmers it for 7 minutes. It's faster and according to him comes out better. I haven't tried it and it sounds like blasphemy to me, but the dude knows what he's talking about.