khorum
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Just use google maps and enable the 'tourist-safe' options. It'll take longer to get anywhere but you'll never see more chick-fil-a's and paneras in your life.
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Hoss
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I'm not sure if you people are arguing or just vehemently agreeing. The tourist to greece won't know those areas to avoid any better than a greek visitor to chicago.
ohkcrlho
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ahah this shit is awesome. Right wingrs all over Europe (including my "sweet" government) were all for "Vote yes, beware ot the radicals, if you don't vote yes, you will die blablablabla"
And today....greeks don't give 2 fucks about threats ahah
This shit is awesome.
Plus, this referendum WAS NOT about leaving the eurozone or the EU, this was to ask the greek people if they want these demands and ask a vote of confidence to Syriza-ANEL government
And today....greeks don't give 2 fucks about threats ahah
This shit is awesome.
Plus, this referendum WAS NOT about leaving the eurozone or the EU, this was to ask the greek people if they want these demands and ask a vote of confidence to Syriza-ANEL government
Arbitrary
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Does Greece have an early warning sign like Chicago does?
You know, when thecolorof the city starts to change?
Chanur
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I hope Greece gives the finger to the banks. Looking good so far. Should go one step further like Iceland and jail them.
Abefroman
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You can tell good from bad in Chicago easily by just the condition of the buildings. Also every fucking travel show pretends like the south and west side of Chicago doesn't even exsist. Tourists would hardly ever even drive to that side of the city in Chicago. I know fuck all about Greece so I have no idea what the chances of being in the wrong neighborhood are, or even if they have neighborhoods.
khorum
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But then tourists would be missing out! Even in Chicago or New York or Austin, finding gaggles of hapless browns is the best way to find the best food and music and nightlife in town.
What's true for tourists is even more true for investors. Just find those neighborhoods with simultaneously high concentrations of despair and melanin, and buy up all the vacant loft space before Morgan Stanley converts every neighborhood Tacqueria into a Chipotle. By the time rent-control steps in you would've doubled or tripled your investment. More if you parcelled it up for airbnb leasing.
Gurgeh
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I don't think the banks still own any significant amount of Greek debt, it was bought by the ECB / Governments. Fear not, they are perfectly safe...
khorum
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Oh there's still plenty of private banks well balls-deep into Greek bonds. Something like a quarter of their debt is still privately held. Direct state buys (much of it German LOL) are the bulk of their debt. The IMF is actually more exposed than the ECB and the Greeks defaulted to the IMF last week. The ECB is technically only supposed to manage QE and emergency liquidity but it's just behind the IMF nowadayst:
Those green US and UK bars are your Barclays and Goldmans who bought into the junk after the last round of haircuts. I wouldn't be shocked if they've actually written all that off by now.
Imagine how many securitized student loan products they could've been swapping with all that money instead.
Those green US and UK bars are your Barclays and Goldmans who bought into the junk after the last round of haircuts. I wouldn't be shocked if they've actually written all that off by now.
Imagine how many securitized student loan products they could've been swapping with all that money instead.
Lleauaric
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I went to Greece a few years ago and a couple things stuck out that I hadnt seen in many other European cities. The first was an incredible amount of heroin users. I must have seen about 40 in Athens near my Hotel in the Plaka district.. just nodding out on benches. The second thing was how friendly everyone was, but how the older generation was really pissed off at the younger generation at how little they wanted to work. It was a major running theme wherever I went.
I loved so many things about Greece and its probably my favorite place I've ever visited, but its really fucked.
I loved so many things about Greece and its probably my favorite place I've ever visited, but its really fucked.
Vinen
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Went to Athens last year in early June. Was a giant shit-hole- Reminded me of Detroit but warmer.
Siddar
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It's just to bad they didn't do that at start before the banks were able to dump most of the debt onto taxpayers.
Gavinmad
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khorum
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A Japanese economist once told me his personal system to judge how orderly a given city is: STRAY DOGS. He felt humane stray dog management was a good metric of how a society accounts for itself when outsiders "weren't looking". I told him by that metric Dubai must be a shithole (because Dubai kinda has a massive stray dog problem) and he agreed: it's a shithole. But you see what he means with smaller cities Singapore and Oslo.
How was Athens' on the stray-dog-o-meter?
How was Athens' on the stray-dog-o-meter?
Siddar
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German ones for the biggest share see Khorums chart. Everything marked EU bailout is owned by EU taxpayers through there governments. The lite green is what private banks own. Purple debt is owed to world governments through IMF or EU central bank.
Lleauaric
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Omg. Stray dogs everywhere...
But we found one that attached to us for some reason. Slept outside our hotel and waited for us.. did wide circles around us as we walked home from bars and barked at shady people who stepped close. Was kinda awesome...
But yeah.. dogs are like pigeons in Athens.
But we found one that attached to us for some reason. Slept outside our hotel and waited for us.. did wide circles around us as we walked home from bars and barked at shady people who stepped close. Was kinda awesome...
But yeah.. dogs are like pigeons in Athens.
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