Big Phoenix
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Can landlords have lease agreements that state which political party you are allowed to belong to or which color your partner must be?
Gun control
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Loser Araysar
Chief Russia Reporter. Stock Pals CEO. Head of AI.
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Oh sorry. We forgot we were dealing with someone stupid enough to surrender their constitutional rights voluntarily for a place to stay.
BrutulTM
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I would be fine with magazine restrictions if I thought it would move the needle on violence in the US. I don't think it would. Pretty much the only situation where magazine capacity is a significant factor in murder is a mass shooting, which I have pointed out before is somewhere between shark attacks and appendicitis on the death toll meter. But even if you do think that mass shootings are a big enough problem that it's worth restricting millions of people's lives to try to mitigate, how much difference do you think that will really make? Watch this kid changing magazines (and he's not good at it) and tell me that smaller magazines would make a huge difference in the death toll at a mass shooting.
Fadaar
That guy
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Of course not, it isn't a scary black rifle (normally) so even if it was used nobody would make a fuss about it.
I typed "mini 14 mass shooting" into google.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/josh-s..._b_911155.html
1.) a 2010 attack at a Connecticut beer distributor, leaving eight victims dead and two wounded
2.) the 1999 shooting at Wedgewood Baptist Church in Texas, leaving seven victims dead and seven wounded
3.) Oregon's Thurston High School in 1998, leaving four dead and 22 wounded
4.) the 1993 Long Island Railroad shooting, leaving six dead and 19 wounded
5.) the 1991 Luby's massacre, leaving 23 victims dead and 20 wounded
6.) a 1987 shootout at a Florida shopping center, leaving six dead, including two police officers.
7.) last but not least the Norwegian guy that killed 77 people and wounded 319
You need to do better research.
Gavinmad
Mr. Poopybutthole
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Hah, that's fucking hilarious. I always said I'd take a Mini-14 over an AR-15 for any kind of shooting scenario, kinda funny that Brevik was using one. Just illustrates the fact that most gun control legislation is just pointless reactionary stupidity. Last I checked, my uncle's Mini-14 is still legal in New York even with that retarded gun ban they just passed.
Why would I need to do better research when I can instead do zero research and have other people do it for me?
Why would I need to do better research when I can instead do zero research and have other people do it for me?
Videos of people changing mags under absolutely no stress, with the ability to do as many takes as they feel like, aren't particularly demonstrative of anything.
Well, shit. Perhaps you can provide some alternatives that are 100% guaranteed to have a major impact in any situation. I'm all ears.
Big Phoenix
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Yeah end the WoD and find out who the crazies are in our society and remove them.
What it comes down to is there are three main reasons people kill;
1) Snapping; walking in on your lover cheating and taking revenge
2) plain crazy; Adam Lanza, Charles Manson
3) Incentive; Drug dealers, mobsters
You can do something about the third, the first two will happen until the end of time.
What it comes down to is there are three main reasons people kill;
1) Snapping; walking in on your lover cheating and taking revenge
2) plain crazy; Adam Lanza, Charles Manson
3) Incentive; Drug dealers, mobsters
You can do something about the third, the first two will happen until the end of time.
Gavinmad
Mr. Poopybutthole
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Bullshit.
If you were, you'd be aware how badly you've been humiliated in the last several pages of this thread. Every nonsensical bit of stupidity you come up with has been shredded to pieces, so you just keep yammering on with mindless garbage. Tell us again how the gun 'problem' in America is worse than health care, poverty, income disparity, etc. Tell us again how vests with pockets should be against the law. Keep telling us how the burden of proof is somehow on us, instead of you, when the burden ALWAYS falls on the person trying to change things, which is you.
Or if you want a semi-serious question, explain to me why you have this bizarre obsession with magazine capacity when rifles are used in a tiny fraction of gun crimes, and the most lethal mass shooting in America was performed with handguns using standard capacity magazines?
Yeah, I've thoroughly been getting humiliated.
Tell me again how hands-free devices being allowed in Washington's cellphone use while driving law somehow makes it not a traffic law, like Araysar tried to insist for two full pages?
Tell me again how the language that people exploit to create NFA trusts was clearly intended by the extremely anti-gun framers of that law, as Khalid has continued to insist?
Tell me again how "vests with pockets" are exactly the same thing as a military load bearing device designed specifically to optimize fast access to ammunition?
Tell me again how a lease agreement to rent an apartment is somehow bound by the Second Amendment?
You've all been humiliating yourselves. I'm just fine.
Tell me again how hands-free devices being allowed in Washington's cellphone use while driving law somehow makes it not a traffic law, like Araysar tried to insist for two full pages?
Tell me again how the language that people exploit to create NFA trusts was clearly intended by the extremely anti-gun framers of that law, as Khalid has continued to insist?
Tell me again how "vests with pockets" are exactly the same thing as a military load bearing device designed specifically to optimize fast access to ammunition?
Tell me again how a lease agreement to rent an apartment is somehow bound by the Second Amendment?
You've all been humiliating yourselves. I'm just fine.
Gavinmad
Mr. Poopybutthole
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Araysar is just stupid.
You're not only wrong about NFA trusts, you're intentionally misrepresenting the argument.
LBE vests and harnesses are actually designed to accommodate a wide variety of functions, and are more a function of convenience than optimization, although I won't try an argue they don't facilitate faster access to ammo. So do cargo pants, and belt pouches. I guess pants and belts should be illegal too.
Once again misrepresenting the argument. Also Araysar is stupid.
I'm not wrong about NFA trusts, and no one's presented even the smallest evidence to make me think otherwise. I've researched them a lot. Even their advocates tend to be willing to admit that it's a loophole that the ATF could close at any time.
As far as the handgun vs. long gun debate? I would LOVE to see some action on handguns, but they're even more popular than assault rifles with the NRA populace. I don't think it's going to be possible to move the needle on them at all, ever. But if you'd rather start there, I'm 100% on your side.
As far as the handgun vs. long gun debate? I would LOVE to see some action on handguns, but they're even more popular than assault rifles with the NRA populace. I don't think it's going to be possible to move the needle on them at all, ever. But if you'd rather start there, I'm 100% on your side.
BrutulTM
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You have to consider the number of people affected vs. the likely results. If you start down the "if it would save one life" line of thinking you will wind up backing all kinds of asinine things. It's easy to say "we have to do something about gun violence and I don't give a damn about magazine capacity so let's ban high capacity magazines". Simple idea for simple minded people, but there *are* a lot of people who care about this, some of them deeply, so if millions of people are going to be angry and not able to do what they want to do, even if it's not technically a life or death type problem, that doesn't necessarily balance out with something that may or may not have a positive impact in an extremely rare situation.
