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We don't live in some utopian society where everyone makes well informed decisions based on a range of unbiased information. And we certainly don't live in a society that has 100% responsible gun ownership.
The above seems to be the basis of most of the pro gun posts.
And none of these are going to be fixed very soon, so it is totally pointless introducing arguments about fixing society instead of looking at gun control.
You can quote homicide facts and figures all you want as well, but at the end of the day the debate is fuelled by nut jobs getting their hands on guns and killing people, and that is what will drive further gun legislation as well.
Nobody really cares about homicide rates as much as they care when they see crying parents outside a school mourning the loss of a child. That is just how it is.
Also, I don't have an issue with people owning guns, but there has to be infrastructure around it to ensure you are responsible with them and that you own a realistic amount of guns and gun types as well.
Yes, further gun control laws will most likely mark the beginning of the end for the way people interact with guns, but thank that percentage of irresponsible gun owners for that.
The above seems to be the basis of most of the pro gun posts.
And none of these are going to be fixed very soon, so it is totally pointless introducing arguments about fixing society instead of looking at gun control.
You can quote homicide facts and figures all you want as well, but at the end of the day the debate is fuelled by nut jobs getting their hands on guns and killing people, and that is what will drive further gun legislation as well.
Nobody really cares about homicide rates as much as they care when they see crying parents outside a school mourning the loss of a child. That is just how it is.
Also, I don't have an issue with people owning guns, but there has to be infrastructure around it to ensure you are responsible with them and that you own a realistic amount of guns and gun types as well.
Yes, further gun control laws will most likely mark the beginning of the end for the way people interact with guns, but thank that percentage of irresponsible gun owners for that.
Prepare for lots of threats and accusations of being sodomized with guns as a child. Welcome to the club!
fanaskin
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None of those things "have to happen" and you are wrong, the murder and crime rate will go up, you will actually make society worse, the police don't ultimatly protect you, and legally can be shown to do and act as such, they just arrest criminals they have no charge to prevent crime. Your mindset is so dependent on the state you don't even perceive of doing things to protect yourself, your trust is grossly misplaced. The people you will activley hurt the most are the weak; woman, The elderly, single mothers, middle aged shop owners people who can't protect themselves otherwise, it's not called "the great equalizer" for nothing.
Also liberals never own up to the unintended consequences of their "logic"( I swear all of them think they are creating star trek utopia in their minds) .
Also liberals never own up to the unintended consequences of their "logic"( I swear all of them think they are creating star trek utopia in their minds) .
fanaskin
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In 2005, just 13 percent of gun owners were women. Today, that number is 23 percent--a 77 percent increase in 7 years.
Read more:http://nation.foxnews.com/female-gun...#ixzz2X4z8qvyP
Do liberals hate woman now? a woman should be free to do anything.
Read more:http://nation.foxnews.com/female-gun...#ixzz2X4z8qvyP
Do liberals hate woman now? a woman should be free to do anything.
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Glad you are willing to admit that the debate isn't rational, its about "saving the children" and not even about saving the children, but about saving "the white children", since apparently you and no one else cares about doing something to lower overall homicides.
Also, your post makes it sound like you think further gun control is inevitable and the pro-gun people are a dying breed. We just had a mass shooting of elementary school kids, done with a very anti-gun president who had just won an election in a landslide and with the democrats in control of the Senate. Even with all that, nothing even passed the Senate. The only successful efforts were in a few states, with other states actually loosening laws. On the other hand, we still have concealed carry laws spreading, with IL about to be added to it.
Yes, that's right ladies and gentlemen, you heard it here. If you're for gun control, you're a RACIST.
This thread is absolutely hilarious.
This thread is absolutely hilarious.
khalid
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Stop misrepresenting. I didn't call it racism, I said people only caring about white kids, which is based more on ignorance than racism. The media constantly mentions mass shootings, plays each one over and over again, trumpeting how many people die. Yet the shootings every day over the drug war gets no coverage and certainly no consideration from ignorant people like you.
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I don't understand why the number of guns someone owns seems to be an issue for some people in this thread. A person can only use one gun at a time. I don't see how someone with 100 guns in their basement is somehow a danger to society more than a person with one or two.
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I think he meant that if your for gun control after the newton shooting, and haven't given a shit about it until then--you most certainly are a racist. That's because more black children die in Chicago every year than were killed in Newton. So if it really was about rage "for the children", we should have seen lawmakers desperately trying to pass legislation every year, with a huge media frenzy--but we don't.
We saw it when a bunch of white, upper middle class, children died. And we won't see it again until more white children die.
fanaskin
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That's when progressive liberal democrats shed their most special unicorn tears.
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khalid
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Exactly right. Duppin seems gun collectors as this...
but instead the average gun collector has more in common with this
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khalid
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How many were killed by stamp collectors? Not sure. How many were killed by people that were gun collectors? Im guessing very few.
You really seem obsessed with this idea that people that collect guns are some sort of huge extra danger to society. However, the people committing mass shootings aren't gun collectors. You don't need 30 guns for a shooting. Certainly the vast majority of homicides, which are committed in drug and gang violence, aren't done by gun collectors.
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