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Tuco

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Tea Party : Conservatives :: NRA : Gun Owners ?
Nah. The modern tea party has another facet of hypocrisy where they pretend to be a continuation of demanding the ruling government stay out of their business, but in reality they're generally for a large military and large entitlement programs (The biggest parts of the government). The NRA is much more consistent in their beliefs.

A much better comparison would be:
Libertarian : Conservatives :: NRA : Gun Owners
 

Gavinmad

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Let's not go overboard trying to demonize the NRA either. They are forced into the extreme position on gun-control because their opposition consists almost entirely of the opposite extreme. Every major issue in American society is fought over by polarized extremists.
 

Gorehack

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Apparently all the people I beat to death last night with a giant purple dildo in SR3 has turned me into a killer. Lookout places of public gathering, your giant fallic doom awaits.

But seriously, fuck the NRA and fuck copout video game blaming.
 

Zombie Thorne_sl

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I'm going to assume that the majority of current NRA members do not agree with current direction of the organization. Many of us are lifetime members from 20-30 years ago when they were more interested in shooting sports than the political machine.

And many firearms owners will support them even if they do not agree with them because, like it or not they are the only org that has real power supporting the 2A.
 

Excidium

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Gun Control is broken up into two categories; a registry for legal arms, and the removal of dangerous arms.

Don't try and defend your right to bare arms when it comes to weapons designed to inflict as many casualties as possible as logical.

In Canada, automatic weapons , assault rifles, explosive ammunition, and fragmentation weapons are all banned. Handguns are allowed but must abide by strict rules of caliber and clip size, and must be registered, and you must take handgun safety courses by law. You must separate the gun from the ammunition for storage.

Rifles in Canada were controlled using a registry. This type of control for a weapon that rarely is part of a murder WAS a waste of time and money as it did punish law abiding citizens who use rifles to hunt and shoot. Rifles are not a form of personal protection.

Handguns were designed to kill people at close range, as personal protection. Are you that scared of whats around you that you must carry a gun? Many of my friends up here in Canada love guns, they own handguns and rifles. But there is no reason for their handgun to contain 30 round magazines.

Stop trying to defend your thoughts of the matter on your 200 year old constitution. If you don't evolve from the principles held back in the 1800's, you will be stuck with prejudice towards people and cultures you don't understand or agree with. So instead of trying to adapt, you Americans ask the government to CONTROL your freedoms in exchange to feel safe. This cannot come at the expense of the one thing that will cause death and injury though god forbids it.

I have never seen so many gated communities in my life as I have in California. Airport security is getting out of control because you are scared something might happen to you. Statistically nothing will happen to you in a plane even before all the 9/11 BS. A nervous and paranoid society should not be allowed weapons that are meant to kill large groups of people.

Stop being so scared of what might happen to you from some random act of violence, all the while eating your garbage food that 1 in 3 Americans will die from due to obesity or god knows what. Look towards your cheap tobacco that kills hundreds of thousands of americans each year. Look to your car you drive to work with, that car kills more people a year than your casualties in both Iraqi and Afganistan every month. Stop being scared pussies, that is not what I grew up as a Canadian watching you Americans. I always thought you were brave and resilient. How times have changed as I watch your country fall on the way side.

Your problems stem from your lost identity. Your fear drives you to guns. Legitimate guns are not the problem, look at all other developed countries that control the spread of dangerous weapons. Your country with your cultural problems only amplify the need to remove these weapons. Where are all your shootings using only 7 round handguns killing off a dozen people? They don't exist.

And don't blame your president, thats just creating a scapegoat so you can be lazy fucks.
 

Tuco

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Don't try and defend your right to bare arms when it comes to weapons designed to inflict as many casualties as possible as logical.
What weapons aren't designed to inflict as many casualties as possible as logical?
 

Neki

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More detailed story regarding NRA

NRA Likens Videogames to "the Filthiest Form of Pornography" - The Escapist

The NRA wages war on interactive entertainment while citing titles such asMortal Kombat.

In its first official statement since the recent shooting in Connecticut, the National Rifle Association predictably diverted any talk of additional gun restrictions in favor of citing the rest of society's ills. And, in a time of crisis, what better scapegoat than the videogame industry to take people's minds off of real, actual guns and make them instead focus on fake, virtual guns?

"And here's another dirty little truth that the media try their best to conceal: There exists in this country a callous, corrupt and corrupting shadow industry that sells, and sows, violence against its own people,"the organization claims."Through vicious, violent video games with names like Bulletstorm, Grand Theft Auto, Mortal Kombat and Splatterhouse."

Then, after spending some time bashing the movie industry for films like American Psycho and Natural Born Killers, the statement takes a slightly more accusatory tone. "But is that what it really is?" NRA Vice President, Wayne LaPierre asks of violent media."Isn't fantasizing about killing people as a way to get your kicks really the filthiest form of pornography?"
 

Sebudai

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Japan has an extremely low gun-related homicide rate. They must not have video games there.
 

Excidium

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Small clip low caliber handguns and single shot rifles. People can't conceal a rifle and walk into a public place without being noticed.

I have never seen somebody in Canada carry a handgun around except one drug dealer. One out of how many people I bought drugs from when I was younger. And we aren't talking about some weed either.

I watch FPSRussia because I think its hilarious that the guns he showcases are legally owned. 30 round automatic shotguns? Why do you need that? Why would you defend that?

In organic chemistry, we nitrated some toluene to study nitration of an aromatic. We stopped short at making o-nitrotoluene and p-nitrotoluene. If we continued nitrofication of the toluene, we will create trinitrotoluene (TNT). Government doesn't want civilians to make or obtain this dangerous compound the same way as automatic weapons. Yes some people might not harm people with them, but there are many who can use it to kill large groups of people. That is why its controlled, just like how guns are controlled, to protect the populace.
 

Excidium

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Could you post an example of a low caliber, low clip handgun?
7 round clips and under .38

Some ammunition is illegal too because of the added effects. Civilians have no use for hollow point and armour piercing rounds.
 

Zodiac

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7 round clips and under .38

Some ammunition is illegal too because of the added effects. Civilians have no use for hollow point and armour piercing rounds.
Rofl, next time someone hopped up on adrenaline rushes your family let me know how a .38 with FMJ works out for you.

You can argue caliber all you want, but FMJ rounds are ineffective in a lot of cases.
 

Zombie Thorne_sl

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The AP rounds, explosives, automatic weapons, assault rifles and fragmentation devices have been illegal for almost 100 years under the National Firearms Act.

And you want to ban the 1911 that my great grandfather was issued in WW1? No thanks.

The physical properties of a handgun effectively limit them to lower powered calibers.
 

Excidium

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Rofl, next time someone hopped up on adrenaline rushes your family let me know how a .38 with FMJ works out for you.

You can argue caliber all you want, but FMJ rounds are ineffective in a lot of cases.
The only completely random gun murders I have heard of in Canada not at a school are the bystanders in a gang shooting. And when its handguns, rarely do the victims die. Nobody is going to randomly kill you, just like every arab isn't going to blow you up.

Stop getting so offended by people telling you that guns are a major part of the problem.
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cr...-with-firearms
Please explain that.
 

Gavinmad

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The only completely random gun murders I have heard of in Canada not at a school are the bystanders in a gang shooting. And when its handguns, rarely do the victims die. Nobody is going to randomly kill you, just like every arab isn't going to blow you up.

Stop getting so offended by people telling you that guns are a major part of the problem.
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cr...-with-firearms
Please explain that.
I explain it with this.

Comments section_sl said:
Brazil and Russia should both be on the list, both Brazil and Russia have thousands of gun murders each year and Brazil is number one in gun murders, Brazil has the most reported gun murders and the most reported total gun deaths in the world each year, There are on average a total of 34,000 gun deaths and 30,000 gun murders a year in Brazil, thats down from a total of 38,000 gun deaths and 36,000 gun murders a year. Russia has on average 5,000 gun murders a year, thats down from 20,000 gun murders on average each year.

These statistics are not at all accurate and are false and misleading.
 

Goatface

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I watch FPSRussia because I think its hilarious that the guns he showcases are legally owned. 30 round automatic shotguns? Why do you need that? Why would you defend that?
you understand he doesn't own all those right? and this was brought up before, a civilian can not buy an AA-12 or any other new automatic weapons