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Loser Araysar

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Have I not been clear? I'm pretty sure I said I agreed with you and Thorne that legislators should get that shit right in legislation. What I've been talking about the entire time is how gun nerds use clip/magazine as a sorting mechanism for who's allowed to make any argument *at all* relating to guns. If you can't pass the quiz, you don't get an opinion, and that's bullshit. This isn't a matter of basic competency. I can promise you there are plenty of gun owners who use the wrong word all the time. It's just a way of discrediting opinions.
I hate when people mix up those 2 terms but I agree with Heylel 100%

However, there's no denying that people who tend to interchange those 2 terms, tend to be more poorly informed about the issue in general.
 

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If you can't pass the quiz, you don't get an opinion, and that's bullshit. This isn't a matter of basic competency.
It's a matter of basic competency when you can't 'pass the quiz' but throw your opinion around recklessly. And when someone does that and screws up in the only way that 100% shows them as full of shit, yeah people can call them out on it.

And I'm saying this as a person who isn't really a big gun fan and doesn't know much about firearms.
 

Aychamo BanBan

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No it's not. A magazine is also a feed mechanism, otherwise they're quite similar. "The thing that holds the bullets" is fine for a layman's definition. Politicians aren't gun experts, and I don't care if they conflate the two in conversation.

In legislation? Yes, get it right. Totally agree. What I find asinine is the gun snobbery evident in this thread that's used as a shorthand for ignoring the opposition.
Haha, you can't even admit that you fucked up and didn't know the difference.
 

Aychamo BanBan

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We saw the same shit with Sopa.

And what is really disturbing, is these aren't special cases. Pretty much anything that goes through is full of dumb shit like this. And we just don't pay attention to it.
Politicians are not scientists, etc. They do not know shit about anything, other then talking in public, and getting elected.
This is so true. Parks & Rec had a funny thing on a politician who was a complete robot. He could "turn on" for the camera, but otherwise was a complete fucking moron. The video Big Phoenix just posted is a great example.
 

Aychamo BanBan

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Took care of unrelated problem on a young teenage boy today. Born of incest to a mother who is currently incarcerated, multiple psychiatric problems, the boy has multiple psychiatric problems (basically one of everything), and has uncontrollable anger with violent outbursts. Upon my visit the child had a completed blunted affect, except to say "shut up" to his caretaker when she said something about his history he didn't want me to know. Just so fucked up. I can't imagine this kid ever doing anything productive or good in his life. And there's basically no long term psychiatric hospitals anymore. This would be a kid to watch, and I honestly feel like a possible future murderer. But yet nothing I can do about it. Sure hope no one in his family has a gun!
 
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Why aren't there long term psychiatric facilities anymore?
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Heylel

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Haha, you can't even admit that you fucked up and didn't know the difference.
Nope, I don't (or really care). I had to wiki it. Like I said, not a gun guy. You're proving my main point though, which is that it's used as a way to invalidate the opinions of people who aren't gun experts.
 

Aychamo BanBan

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Nope, I don't (or really care). I had to wiki it. Like I said, not a gun guy. You're proving my main point though, which is that it's used as a way to invalidate the opinions of people who aren't gun experts.
Sure, and why shouldn't it be used to invalidate their opinion? Why the fuck should I care what features someone thinks makes a gun "too dangerous to own" when they don't even know the basic parts of the gun? Big Phoenix's post was a great example, where the lady passed legislation banning guns with a part that she couldn't even define. Similarly how so many people think "semi automatic" means you hold the trigger and out flies dozens of bullets from the clip! (ha)
 

Heylel

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Pretty sure the argument with regards to high capacity magazines is that more bullets = more potential fatalities. I don't really think that's a very strong argument, but there it is.
 

Loser Araysar

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how exactly do you manage to drive off after being shot 5 times in a face with a .38?
 
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I doubt all the facts in the story are accurate, but just getting shot in the head isn't a death sentence depending on where / how you are shot.


I like how at the bottom how they are pushing statistics (questionable in my mind) that owning guns makes you less safe.
 

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Pretty sure the argument with regards to high capacity magazines is that more bullets = more potential fatalities. I don't really think that's a very strong argument, but there it is.
Killers compensate by either bringing more guns, more magazines, or they keep a greater distance from their victims.